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Meeting of the Parliament 01 October 2025 [Draft]

01 Oct 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Protecting Scotland’s Fire Service

I am sorry.

Wildfires are on the rise. Newer developments such as recycling centres and battery energy storage systems also present a fresh challenge. Scotland’s population is increasing and ageing and is therefore becoming more vulnerable. Instead of constantly asking firefighters to do more with less, the Scottish Government needs to completely change direction. John McKenzie, the Scottish secretary of the FBU, said:

“The Minister’s call for improved fire safety at a time when she is overseeing a service being systematically stripped of jobs and fire fighting capacity shows she is in complete denial about what is going on in the service she is responsible for.”

Brave firefighters save lives, keep communities safe and place themselves in grave danger while doing so. They need to know that the Scottish Parliament has their backs. I ask all members to support my amendment, which will show firefighters that that is the case and will, I hope, trigger an urgent rethink on funding and resources.

I move amendment S6M-19124.1, to insert at end:

“; recognises that the Scottish Government’s mismanagement of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (SFRS) has resulted in an £800 million operational backlog that has mostly resulted from the failure to bring stations up to modern standards, with 18 fire stations lacking running water; notes that the SFRS is coming under increasing strain thanks to the pressures presented by wildfires, and that the public are becoming more concerned about the fire hazards presented by battery storage sites, and calls on the Scottish Government to ensure that firefighters have the basic resources to do their job, to ensure that lives are not needlessly lost.”

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In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-19124, in the name of Katy Clark, on protecting Scotland’s fire service. I invite members who wish to spe...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour has lodged the motion because the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service is in a state of crisis. The Fire Brigades Union Scotland has been warning...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Does the Labour Party believe that rural areas could be disproportionately affected by the proposals from the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, because they ...
Katy Clark Lab
Rachael Hamilton makes her point well, and I agree. The plans that have been outlined would further damage the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service and add to t...
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, which has been a single national service since 2013, is one of Scotland’s success stories. We have a successful emergen...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I join the minister in paying tribute to our firefighters, who do a wonderful job. However, in regions such as mine—the Highlands and Islands—less than 10 pe...
Siobhian Brown SNP
The bill that became the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 was supported by Labour at the time. The reduction in the number of firefighters is prima...
Katy Clark Lab
Will the minister be addressing the concerning increases in response and call-handling times?
Siobhian Brown SNP
I will get to that. Climate change is contributing to warmer, drier conditions, which increase the likelihood and intensity of wildfires. As I said yesterda...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Siobhian Brown SNP
I would like to make some progress. Continuing to keep everything the same for decades would not be efficient or effective and would not ensure that taxpaye...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister will be concluding shortly.
Siobhian Brown SNP
I must make some progress. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service plans to redeploy resources that are freed up by making changes to front-line delivery to pr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you need to bring your remarks to a close.
Siobhian Brown SNP
I conclude by saying something about response times—that is really important because, if anything about that is misconstrued, it can cause public fear. The S...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you need to conclude and move your amendment.
Siobhian Brown SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I will try to update Parliament more in my closing speech. I move amendment S6M-19124.2, to leave out from “expresses” to end ...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Katy Clark for securing this important debate for the chamber. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service is a life-saving organisation, which protects pe...
Siobhian Brown SNP
Will Sharon Dowey take an intervention?
Sharon Dowey Con
Would I get the time back, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is no time in hand.
Sharon Dowey Con
I am sorry. Wildfires are on the rise. Newer developments such as recycling centres and battery energy storage systems also present a fresh challenge. Scotl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I invite Maggie Chapman to open on behalf of the Scottish Greens. 16:18
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by paying tribute to all of Scotland’s firefighters—our fireys—who put themselves in harm’s way every day to protect us; to their families who live w...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I thank Katy Clark for lodging the motion for debate, which provides an opportunity to highlight the central role that the fire service plays in protecting c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 16:26
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
What is taking place in our communities is not a Scottish Fire and Rescue Service delivery review—it is an experiment, and it is one which, as a matter of pu...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
This is an important debate. I took part in the public consultation and have informed my constituents that I do not support the proposals for Inverclyde. To ...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the member take an intervention?