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Meeting of the Parliament 30 September 2025

30 Sep 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

I am very happy to give that assurance to Kevin Stewart, because I know the import that he places on those matters. I hope that he, and other members, see that I have a similar objective.

The second part of Katy Clark’s amendment 328 is unworkable, so I cannot support it. However, further to Mr Stewart’s intervention, I assure members that I will continue to consider the contract law and other matters that are at play here. I also offer assurance to members that the bill takes us a significant step forward in respect of the protection of the housing rights of people who are suffering abuse, not least through the existing provision in the bill that allows for the ending of a joint tenancy—crucially, with the landlord’s consent—but also through my commitment to implementing part 2 of the Domestic Abuse (Protection) (Scotland) Act 2021, which will provide that a social tenant who is a victim of abuse can stay in her home and have the perpetrator removed.

Amendment 329, in the name of Katy Clark, would require social landlords, as part of their domestic abuse policies, to consider writing off a tenant’s rent arrears due to domestic abuse. I am pleased to say that the bill already has provisions in sections 44 and 45 for social landlords to support tenants in that way. Section 45 requires social landlords to have a domestic abuse policy that includes a description of the action that must be taken in relation to the needs of a tenant in those circumstances.

I will support amendment 111, in the name of Meghan Gallacher, on the Scottish social housing charter, as it will bolster the support that we offer to tenants who are suffering from domestic abuse.

Amendment 17, in the name of Maggie Chapman, would oblige ministers to prepare and publish a timetable for implementing the December 2020 report entitled, “Improving housing outcomes for women and children experiencing domestic abuse”. I would have liked to accept the amendment, because we are already implementing parts of that report. However, I am afraid that there are parts of the report that I cannot commit to implementing today. For example, one of the provisions is that legal advice should be freely available in the case of someone who is suffering domestic abuse. The Scottish Legal Aid Board already provides legal advice, but the question of whether it is free is determined according to whether the individual can afford to pay. Therefore, although I place great priority on protecting the housing rights of women and children, I cannot accept amendment 17.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Housing (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have the bill as amended at s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We have reached group 19, which is on housing and homelessness: supporting persons experiencing etc abuse. Amendment 309, in the name of Katy Clark, is group...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I will speak to amendment 309 and my other amendments in the group. Amendment 309 would require relevant bodies to ask individuals who they have reason to be...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I will begin by addressing Katy Clark’s amendments 309 and 310, which would oblige the relevant body to ask “whether the person is homeless or threatened wi...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
Speaking of interests, I will absolutely take Mr Stewart’s intervention.
Kevin Stewart SNP
I thank the cabinet secretary for taking my intervention. I am very pleased to hear her say that the Domestic Abuse (Protection) (Scotland) Act 2021 will be ...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am very happy to give that assurance to Kevin Stewart, because I know the import that he places on those matters. I hope that he, and other members, see th...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
Yes, I will.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Please be brief.
Maggie Chapman Green
I understand what the cabinet secretary is saying, but given that, as we have discussed in relation to other legislation, including legislation that we passe...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I understand entirely the point that Maggie Chapman puts to me, but I am afraid that I cannot commit today to putting that into primary legislation, because ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Maggie Chapman to speak to amendment 327 and other amendments in the group.
Maggie Chapman Green
I am grateful for the work that I know the cabinet secretary has done with Scottish Women’s Aid. Because of that work, I will not move amendment 327. I have...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Meghan Gallacher to speak to amendment 111 and the other amendments in the group.
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It is good to begin today’s housing bill proceedings on a positive note. I thank the previous cabinet secretary, Shirley-Anne Somerville, and Màiri McAllan f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Katy Clark to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 309.
Katy Clark Lab
The cabinet secretary seems to be saying that amendments 309 to 312 and 329 are not required, because the bill will require that landlords adopt a domestic a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
To clarify, are you pressing amendment 309?
Katy Clark Lab
I press my amendment.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The question is, that amendment 309 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
There will be a division. As this will be the first division of the stage 3 proceedings today, I suspend the meeting for around five minutes, to allow member...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We will proceed with the division on amendment 309, in the name of Katy Clark. The vote is closed.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect to the app. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Gray. I will ensure that that is recorded. For Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Ind) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (C...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The result of the division is: For 48, Against 58, Abstentions 0. Amendment 309 disagreed to. Amendment 310 moved—Katy Clark.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The question is, that amendment 310 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
There will be a division. The vote is closed. I call Angus Robertson for a point of order.
The Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture (Angus Robertson) SNP
I am sorry, Presiding Officer, but I wanted to make a point of order for the previous vote. I would have voted no in the previous vote, but I have taken part...