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Meeting of the Parliament 17 September 2025

17 Sep 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill

Not just now.

The bill will introduce radical improvements to how sexual offences are dealt with through the creation of a new sexual offences court, which will, in its establishment, compel change. I just could not accept an alternative that only gave the power to courts and did not see that through by compelling them to change.

There is, of course, the abolition of the not proven verdict. There has been a long debate on that. That change, which is long overdue, will happen now. Some of the evidence to support the abolition of the not proven verdict goes back decades and, indeed, even to Michael McMahon’s Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill. That bill was, of course, unsuccessful at the time, but it speaks to the value of member’s bills, irrespective of whether they complete their journey.

There is also reform of the victim notification scheme to ensure that victims can be supported, informed and, ultimately, empowered. Rape is the most serious offence, not because it is prosecuted in the High Court but because it is the most degrading crime that a woman can experience.

Other improvements include changes to the parole process, including requiring the Parole Board for Scotland to take into account whether a prisoner has information about the disposal of a victim’s remains but has not disclosed it.

Through the legislation, we will embed trauma-informed approaches with a statutory duty on criminal justice bodies, and protect the privacy of victims through lifelong anonymity for sexual offence victims. There will be new independent legal representation for victims where the court has been asked to look into a victim’s character and sexual history, and we will strengthen protections for victims through reforms to non-harassment orders and other protective orders.

That is the transformation that parliamentarians have the power to agree to by supporting the bill today.

Yes, it is a big bill, but, as someone once said to me, “You do as much as you can for as long as you can.” I know that we are all attached to our tradition and history, not least that of our unique legal system in Scotland, which of course we are all proud of and which we will do everything that we can to safeguard. However, as Lady Elish Angiolini said, our justice system

“doesn’t stand still due to tradition. The great thing about Scottish justice is that it does look at itself and it does move and it does develop.”

Our justice system needs reform so that those who become part of it, whether as victims or witnesses of crime, feel safe and informed and are treated with understanding. The bill is needed to ensure that the structural, procedural and cultural change that will put victims and witnesses at the heart of a much more modern and fair justice system is created.

Even at this late stage, I appeal to—I urge—all parliamentarians not to let victims, their families and their support organisations down today. They want to know that we have heard them and that we are giving them our full support. We need to let those whom we seek to serve know that their pain has not been in vain and that we are with them in their creation of a legacy that comes from their loss. I appeal that we come together and back the bill.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-18883, in the name of Angela Constance, on the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill at ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs (Angela Constance) SNP
The core of the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill is about supporting victims. I begin by recognising everyone who has been impacted by ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
The bill has had a tortuous passage. The cabinet secretary said that it has been a marathon, not a sprint, and that is certainly true. It was originally goin...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
This is the most difficult bill that I have dealt with in my time on the Criminal Justice Committee. It deals, in its entirety, with wholesale reform of the ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I remind colleagues of my entry in the register of members’ interests: I used to work for a rape crisis centre. We are here today to debate legislation that...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (LD) LD
I am often asked, when schools come to visit, “What is the best part of being an MSP? Is it helping constituents? Is it meeting inspiring people? Is it chang...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 15:54
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
It is safe to say that the passage of the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill has been long, complex and challenging—and rightly so, given...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which notes that my wife is a sergeant with Police Scotland. The cabinet secretary knows...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Christine Grahame, who is the final speaker in the open debate. 16:02
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate all who are engaged in the bill, but I also consider that to allocate just over one hour to debate these radical changes to the delivery and p...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to closing speeches. 16:04
Maggie Chapman Green
Presiding Officer, “We are treated like outsiders throughout the whole process.” “I was told by a police detective that I wasn’t raped—it was consensual....
Christine Grahame SNP
Thank you for taking an intervention; I know that your time is constricted. Is there a place in our education system—in schools—for education on the general ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair.
Maggie Chapman Green
Absolutely—education for all of us about the legal system and our criminal justice system is imperative. After we pass the bill today, our third sector part...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to close the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. We remain concerned that the bill might have unintended consequences and disappoint victims. ...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
The member’s party and the Conservative Party are not voting for the bill. Do you not think that, by not voting for it, you are letting down victims and witn...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair.
Katy Clark Lab
The whole of my speech addresses the point that Rona Mackay is making. There are many proposals in the bill that we agree with. Indeed, many of them do not ...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I acknowledge that the bill contains some improvements, and I welcome the fact that the Government backed my amendments to toughen up non-harassment orders a...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs (Angela Constance) SNP
I do not want to pollute the debate with partisan comments because, at the end of the day, victims will judge for themselves whether they see through any con...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Angela Constance SNP
Not just now. The bill will introduce radical improvements to how sexual offences are dealt with through the creation of a new sexual offences court, which ...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
That concludes the debate on the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill at stage 3.