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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee 10 September 2025

10 Sep 2025 · S6 · Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Item of business
New Petitions
Ewing, Fergus Ind Inverness and Nairn Watch on SPTV

To follow on the theme of commenting on NatureScot, it seems that all species are equal, but some are more equal than others. Goats seem to be the species that does not merit any care or attention from NatureScot. Why that is the case is completely baffling, but NatureScot could no doubt explain it. I suggest that we ask NatureScot to explain why goats are apparently not worth anything as a species, and on what value judgment basis it has come to that apparent conclusion.

I want to pick up on a point that Lynda Graham made in her submission on 27 August, which is that, unless there is grazing of moorland upland by cattle, sheep or feral goats—I am told that the cattle and sheep have gone, which just leaves the goats—a fire load of tinder will be created. We have seen that in my constituency with the largest recorded wildfire in Scotland’s history—in Dava, Carrbridge and Lochindorb—and also, I gather, with fires in the Borders during the Easter period.

10:30  

I am told that in the local press—perhaps the august journal that Mr Hoy mentioned as well as others; I do not know—the fire service has expressed concern that, unless there is grazing, vegetation will increase the propensity for fires to become even more serious than they have been in the past.

Therefore, I would be grateful if we could write to the chief of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to ask whether the service has a view on the desirability of moorland being subject to grazing. After all, it seems to be a pretty obvious and sound management practice, although, again, it is a practice that seems to have gone by the attention of NatureScot.

In the same item of business

The Convener Con
  Primitive Goat Species (Protected Status) (PE2151) 10:16 The first new petition for consideration is PE2151, lodged by Kenneth Erik Moffatt, which cal...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Thank you for the welcome, convener. I thank Kenneth Moffatt for lodging the petition. He is not able to make it today, but I welcome members of the Wild Goa...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am attending alongside Rachael Hamilton to speak in support of the petition lodged by Kenneth Moffatt, which reflects the real sense of public anger and co...
The Convener Con
That is the dead hand of NatureScot—sorry, my prejudice has been provoked again. At times, I find it difficult to understand what the connection is between N...
David Torrance SNP
Believe it or not, I have been climbing to the Grey Mare’s Tail for many years and I have spent many hours watching the goats there, which has brought great ...
The Convener Con
We could couple that with a reference to the fact that the petition has attracted an unusual degree of public support and we could draw attention to the numb...
Fergus Ewing Ind
To follow on the theme of commenting on NatureScot, it seems that all species are equal, but some are more equal than others. Goats seem to be the species th...
The Convener Con
Are we all content to proceed on that basis? Members indicated agreement.
The Convener Con
I thank our colleagues for coming along. You will be pleased to hear that we are keeping the petition open and are acting robustly in light of the evidence t...