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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee 29 May 2025

29 May 2025 · S6 · Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Item of business
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

I recognise the intent behind many of the amendments in the grouping and I appreciate that difficulties are being experienced by some who are in the property factors system. As Mark Griffin mentioned, members will have knowledge of that from their constituency work, as do I.

However, the amendments that are proposed are very wide ranging and pick out a number of discrete topics across what is a complex and interconnected system. Although I am sympathetic to what members are trying to achieve and the constituency cases that I am sure lie behind many of the amendments, I am concerned about considering issues in isolation from one another and from the wider system. I am also mindful that we have not engaged widely with stakeholders on the issues.

Instead of working in a potentially piecemeal way, I would like to look at any issues in the round and engage with stakeholders to review the system in its entirety to identify what improvements can be made. I wish to take the time to do that work properly and would welcome members contributing to it, instead of pressing forward with the range of amendments that are before us today.

I begin with amendment 507, in the name of Mark Griffin, which would require additional information to be included as part of an application to be a registered property factor. Although I appreciate that the intent is to strengthen the application process, I am not clear on the value that such additional information would provide beyond what is already in the code of conduct, with which all registered property factors must comply, and what property factor enforcement orders already allow for. As those existing provisions appear to be operating as intended, I cannot support the amendment without hearing further from stakeholders on the issues.

I turn to the Government’s amendments in the name of Paul McLennan. Amendments 387 to 392 and 397 modify the existing property factor registration regime to make it work more coherently and effectively. In particular, they clarify when a property factor number is to be disclosed; adjust matters to be considered as part of the fit-and-proper-person test; expand powers to remove property factors from the property factor register when the factor no longer exists; clarify the duty to notify property factors who have been removed from the register in cases where that is not currently possible; require refusals and removals to be noted on the register; allow property factors to seek removal from the register; and confer additional enforcement powers. The amendments will improve the registration scheme and I urge members to support them so that improvements can be brought forward before the review that I mentioned earlier.

It is not clear how amendments 508 and 513, in the name of Mark Griffin, would benefit the system overall. Scottish ministers have the responsibility to assess whether applicants are fit and proper for registration, and consideration is based on all relevant circumstances. The First-tier Tribunal would not have access to the full range of material that is used to determine whether someone is a fit and proper person to carry out property factoring, so amendment 508 would narrow the scope of the fit-and-proper-person test, which would have potentially negative implications for factors’ businesses and for home owners. I therefore cannot support the amendments without more understanding of what is behind them.

I turn to amendments 509 to 511, which relate to provision of certain information to home owners. It is my view that the code of conduct for property factors already caters for what the amendments propose. The code covers how fees, charges and works that have already been undertaken or are to be undertaken are handled and communicated, and how factors will co-operate with another factor to allow for a smooth transfer. Without hearing wider views, I am therefore unclear what the amendments would add to the requirements that are already in place. I cannot therefore support the amendments at this time.

On amendment 512, in the name of Mark Griffin, I note that it is already possible for individuals to search whether a property factor is registered to provide services in Scotland, who the property factor is for a certain property or area of land and the latest number of properties that a property factor manages. As already explained, amendment 390, in the name of Paul McLennan, would place a new duty on Scottish ministers to keep a note in the register of any refusal

“to enter a person in the register”

and of any removal from the register

“for the period of 3 years”,

which I hope will reassure Mr Griffin on the matter behind his amendment. Scottish ministers can provide guidance and publish information that they deem appropriate without the need for the amendment. For that reason, I do not support it.

I appreciate the aim of amendments 504 and 517, in the name of Ariane Burgess, but there are already means by which such attention is brought, in the form of evidence gathered by Scottish ministers through compliance monitoring activity, which can and is frequently informed by home owner reports, and by notice from the First-tier Tribunal that a property factor enforcement order has not been complied with. Without further discussion, it is therefore not clear what improvements the amendments would bring, so I cannot support them.

I turn to amendments 505 and 518, also in the name of Ariane Burgess. Amendment 505 would lower the current upper legal threshold that is required for property owners to dismiss a property manager and appoint someone else from “two thirds” to “a majority”,

“unless the title deeds ... provide a lower threshold”.

Existing provision is intended to ensure that title deeds do not impose an unreasonably high threshold to dismiss the manager, such as requiring a unanimous vote. Title deeds can, however, specify a lower threshold, such as a simple majority. When title deeds are silent, existing legislation provides a default rule that allows a simple majority to dismiss the manager.

When the Scottish Government last consulted on that issue in 2013, a majority of respondents did not favour reducing the threshold. Given the changes to the sector since then, it is important that we take time to look at the matter as part of a wider review, as I mentioned earlier. Removal of a property factor is, of course, the final step to address underperformance. So that we can better understand the issue, how it sits in the wider property factor system and any unintended consequences of the proposed changes, I ask Ariane Burgess not to move the amendments.

On amendment 506, in the name of Mark Griffin, I recognise, as I have said, that some users of the system are experiencing difficulties, and I have committed to working with members and stakeholders to consider those in the round, taking the time to do so properly. The amendment would drive too short a timeframe for work of that nature and set a particular scope before we have had time to consider matters. For that reason, I cannot support it, but I emphasise my offer to engage with members and stakeholders to look at the system in the round.

In the same item of business

The Convener (Ariane Burgess) Green
Good afternoon, and welcome to the 17th meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I welcome Collette Stevenson, who is attendi...
The Convener Green
Amendment 507, in the name of Mark Griffin, is grouped with amendments 387, 508, 388 to 392, 509 to 512, 415, 513, 504 to 506, 514, 476, 476A, 517, 518 and 3...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Colleagues, I hope that you will bear with me as I go through the fairly lengthy and technical list of amendments in this group. I do not need to quote the ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
I recognise the intent behind many of the amendments in the grouping and I appreciate that difficulties are being experienced by some who are in the property...
Mark Griffin Lab
I appreciate the cabinet secretary’s comments that the timescale might be restrictive, but residents who have been experiencing unsatisfactory factors have h...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I appreciate the need for movement. As I mentioned at a previous meeting, the Government will work on a number of areas between stages 2 and 3, and we will b...
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Like you, I have had constituents get in touch and raise some pretty serious issues with factors. I am aware of many situations in which factors are simply s...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
That is an important point. As I said, I could feed in a number of my constituents’ experiences. It is important that, if they wish to do so, all members—not...
The Convener Green
Thank you, cabinet secretary—
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
If I might continue, convener, as I am not finished—I nearly am. I turn to amendment 514, in the name of Mark Griffin. The current position is, rightly, tha...
The Convener Green
I call myself to speak to amendment 504, in my name, and other amendments in the group. As we have heard from Mark Griffin and Emma Roddick, many committee m...
Mark Griffin Lab
We have heard clearly from the cabinet secretary and other members that this is a common problem across Scotland. As the convener said, a quarter of properti...
The Convener Green
The next group is on the private rented sector. Amendment 1, in the name of Willie Rennie, is grouped with amendments 2, 135, 135A to 135E, 275, 276 and 256.
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Amendments 1 and 2 are designed to require the Scottish Government ministers to publish and review a private rented sector strategy. The purpose of that is t...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Following on from what Willie Rennie said, the housing emergency and the introduction of emergency legislation through the Cost of Living (Tenant Protection)...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Amendments 135B to 135E seek to support and, I hope, improve on Meghan Gallacher’s proposed private rented sector charter. I support the idea of a charter; M...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The purpose of amendment 256, in the name of Pam Gosal, is to gather data on how the bill will affect the rental market and to make that data public. During ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
In his opening remarks, Willie Rennie mentioned that the private rented sector is part of the solution. I agree that it is an integral part of our housing sy...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I understand and am pleased to hear that that work is moving in the right direction. However, will the cabinet secretary please keep the committee updated on...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Certainly, on that particular matter, I will ensure that an update is given to the committee following the next board meeting, when we will discuss the updat...
Meghan Gallacher Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
The Convener Green
We need to move on, because of time. I invite Willie Rennie to wind up and to indicate whether he wishes to press amendment 1 or to withdraw it.
Willie Rennie LD
I am very pleased. The development of a strategy represents good progress, however we get to that point. That is a good thing. Doing that through the housing...
The Convener Green
The question is, that amendment 191 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener Green
There will be a division. For Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coat...
The Convener Green
The result of the division is: For 4, Against 3, Abstentions 0. Amendment 191 agreed to. Amendment 192 not moved. Amendment 462 moved—Maggie Chapman.
The Convener Green
The question is, that amendment 462 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener Green
There will be a division. For Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Against Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) Gallacher, Meg...
The Convener Green
The result of the division is: For 1, Against 6, Abstentions 0. Amendment 462 disagreed to. Amendment 463 moved—Maggie Chapman.
The Convener Green
The question is, that amendment 463 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.