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Meeting of the Parliament 26 March 2025

26 Mar 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Gougeon, Mairi SNP Angus North and Mearns Watch on SPTV

I am sorry, but I have to make progress.

We have to recognise that reform must be carried out in a way that is fair to all parties, is supported by evidence and is deliverable within the resources and current powers of this Parliament.

The measures in part 2 are essential reforms that are needed to deliver equality of opportunity to Scotland’s small landholders and tenant farmers. We want to offer our tenant farmers a future that we would want for ourselves—one with security and dignity at its heart. We want a vibrant tenanted sector, ensuring that we have opportunities for the next generation.

More diverse land ownership is not incompatible with those aims. All that we have to do is look to Europe and examples in France and the Republic of Ireland of how a vibrant tenanted sector can be achieved. The key difference is that they have the fiscal powers that are necessary to encourage those changes.

I will keep working with all partners and across this Parliament to ensure that momentum continues to build for a stronger, more resilient tenancy sector. The bill will ensure that tenants today and those in the future have a level playing field, enabling them to deliver improvements to the land that they farm in order to become more sustainable and productive, and enabling tenant farming families to better access the new agriculture support and rural framework so that they can play their part in delivering on key Government priorities. After all, tenant farmers make up a quarter of Scottish farmers, and our provisions in part 2 of the bill will mean that they are treated with fairness and dignity, including if they choose to leave their tenancies.

By modernising small landholder legislation, we are ensuring that no part of land tenure is left behind. The new model of lease for environmental purposes—the land management tenancy—will provide a new tool for land management, enabling people and communities to undertake a range of hybrid land management activities through one lease and helping achieve Scotland’s net zero, biodiversity, and sustainable and regenerative agriculture ambitions. The bill cannot solve all the issues that land tenure is facing, as many are outwith our control, but we remain committed to delivering a fair and vibrant tenanted sector.

Land reform is a journey. The bill offers hope; it will deliver positive progress and, in so doing, build trust with the people of Scotland. I hope that we can come together today to stand behind the bill’s principles, as they are same principles that have been supported by successive Governments since the Parliament was reconvened in 1999.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-16892, in the name of Mairi Gougeon, on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. 15:20
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
I think that today is a good day. Spring is upon us, and it is a time of renewed hope and optimism. It is on that note that I am proud to open today’s debate...
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
The majority of people who gave evidence to the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee were of the opinion that the bill would not realise the aims that ha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Always speak through the chair.
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I thank Douglas Lumsden for raising that point. I listened very carefully to the evidence that the committee received and to those concerns. There was broad ...
Douglas Lumsden Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I will give way to Rachael Hamilton, as I have already taken an intervention from Douglas Lumsden.
Rachael Hamilton Con
Does the cabinet secretary believe that there could be a conflict of interest, given that Scottish ministers have to be answerable to decisions made on land ...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
The member raises an important point. I recognise that the Scottish Government is a significant landowner in Scotland, but I do not believe that there is suc...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does the cabinet secretary recognise that, provided that their bank balance is big enough, there is currently nothing to stop someone from buying up all of S...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I thank Mercedes Villalba for raising that point. There are all sorts of issues in relation to that, but I believe that our proposals, which the committee ha...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I am sorry, but I have to make progress. We have to recognise that reform must be carried out in a way that is fair to all parties, is supported by evidence...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Edward Mountain to speak on behalf of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. 15:31
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak in this debate on behalf of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. In accordance with parliamentary rules, I will make a full d...
Mercedes Villalba Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I will if I have time, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is time, but it is very limited.
Mercedes Villalba Lab
Is it fair to say that those who opposed part 1 tended to be representatives of those who own large amounts of land in Scotland?
Edward Mountain Con
That is not entirely true. Some of the people who opposed part 1 were people who manage land holdings across Scotland, whether in the private or public secto...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Will Edward Mountain give way briefly?
Edward Mountain Con
I think that I am short of time, but I would like to give way.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a limited bit of time in hand.
Fergus Ewing SNP
The bill proposes legal measures that would, I gather, be applied retrospectively. Is the committee at all concerned that that might contravene the European ...
Edward Mountain Con
I think that the committee was more concerned that constantly changing agricultural tenancies retrospectively could cause problems for the letting of land in...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a small farmer. I also have a couple of short limited duration ten...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Tim Eagle Con
Go for it.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Although it was not lacking in courtesy, I note that that language was a bit relaxed.