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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2025

26 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Glasgow’s Bus Services

It is my understanding that there is no requirement for SPT to do so, which means that we could be left with a situation in which there is no public accountability for the actions that it is taking. I do not think that either of us think that that is acceptable, because we need public accountability in that regard.

In all cases, not having a legal requirement for bus operators to consult the public on service cancellations, or to notify them until after a cancellation has been confirmed, is difficult and removes opportunity for public scrutiny. I would be grateful if, in his closing remarks, the minister could set out the ways in which the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 has teeth and can be used to influence bus operators’ decisions so that they can be subjected to appropriate scrutiny.

For people who rely on the 65 service that I mentioned, the lack of consultation on the decision to withdraw it is devastating. One resident said that the service means everything to her, because it connects her with life outside. Without it, she would not be able to have the same quality of life. That is exactly the impact that pulling services without employing democratic accountability can have on people’s lives.

I will use the short time that I have remaining to describe my experience of travelling on buses in Glasgow as a disabled woman. I say on the record that, as Patrick Harvie has highlighted, even getting to a bus stop in Glasgow can be difficult for anyone, and they cannot be sure whether a bus will come along. A wheelchair user has the added lottery element of not knowing whether the bus will be fully accessible or whether someone else will be in the wheelchair space. That makes it really difficult to travel around a city in which buses can be the only accessible form of transport. In the past couple of years, NASA has put disabled people on the moon. If NASA can do that, surely bus authorities can help disabled people to get across our great city.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-17910, in the name of Patrick Harvie, on the future of Glasgow’s bus services. The deb...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
It is usual to begin a members’ business debate by thanking those who have chosen to stay late for it, and I have a double reason to thank those who have cho...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
I thank Patrick Harvie for bringing this debate to the chamber. It has proved to be timely for residents in my Rutherglen constituency. At its heart, this de...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The member makes the very important point that there is no way to fully view the coherence of the greater Glasgow bus system, because the information about t...
Clare Haughey SNP
I will come on to that point later in my speech, but the long and the short of it is yes, I do. Yesterday, I met First Bus to relay my and my constituents’ ...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I start by apologising to Patrick Harvie for not attending the debate in person. I did my very best, but I simply could not make my diary work.
Patrick Harvie Green
Made a request to intervene.
Graham Simpson Con
I think that Patrick is trying to intervene. If that is the case, I am happy to allow him to do so.
Patrick Harvie Green
I am grateful to Graham Simpson. I apologise to him. I was not aware that he was joining us online when I made my comment about parties being represented in ...
Graham Simpson Con
That is very nice of Patrick to say. He is right. We have worked together on the issue for a long time. There has been cross-party agreement on the subject, ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Simpson. 17:05
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I thank my colleague, Patrick Harvie, for bringing this important debate to the chamber. I also thank the Deputy Presiding Officer for agreeing that I may le...
Clare Haughey SNP
On that very point, the decision is—as the member will have heard in my speech—very much a hot topic. Is she aware of SPT having consulted with South Lanarks...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
It is my understanding that there is no requirement for SPT to do so, which means that we could be left with a situation in which there is no public accounta...
Patrick Harvie Green
Will Pam Duncan-Glancy take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back, Ms Duncan-Glancy.
Patrick Harvie Green
Pam Duncan-Glancy makes an extremely important point. I assume that she would agree that the experience of disabled travellers in Manchester shows that genui...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I whole-heartedly agree with that point. From my own experience and that of other disabled people I have spoken to, I know that bus travel in Manchester is f...
Bob Doris SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I will be happy to take Bob Doris’s intervention if I have time, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Bob Doris.
Bob Doris SNP
I thank you for your indulgence, Presiding Officer. Pam-Duncan Glancy makes a really important point. As a dad who uses bus services, I have often felt tha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I have been in awkward situations—as I am sure that the member, or anyone who has a wheelchair or a buggy will have been. I find it regrettable that anyone h...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I thank my colleague Patrick Harvie for securing the debate. For many years, he has been a relentless champion for people in Glasgow, including bus users. It...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I thank Patrick Harvie for bringing this important motion to the chamber. For the substantial Scottish Government investment that we make in Scotland’s bus...
Patrick Harvie Green
Mr Doris makes some important points. I again make the case that the other changes that we need to make in the transport system for climate purposes, such as...
Bob Doris SNP
I agree with that. I cannot expand on the point, because I have only four minutes and my time is lapsing, but we have to reach to that point first, and we ha...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I thank my colleague Patrick Harvie for lodging the motion, which I was pleased to sign, for this members’ business debate. I recognise the excellent work th...
The Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity (Jim Fairlie) SNP
How many cars were on the road then, and how many cars are on the road now?