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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2025

26 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Product Regulation and Metrology Bill

This has been a fascinating debate on the legislative consent motion because, in quite amicable terms, it has highlighted one of the challenges that this Parliament and the Scottish Government have faced regarding legislative consent motions. By common custom, the matter is one for Governments to discuss between themselves, but, following discussions earlier in this session about legislative consent motions, Parliament is now taking the opportunity to look at the issue and to see whether we might do what I could call “assisting” a more generous and even discussion between Governments about how legislative consent should be dealt with.

To pick up on Murdo Fraser’s comments, there are concerns about framework bills. Those concerns have been expressed in this chamber and the chambers of other devolved Parliaments and, of course, at Westminster. There is also always the challenge of the interestingly named Henry VIII powers that can follow on from such framework bills. As we go forward, there is a question for Parliament about how to deal with that matter.

I turn to the legislative consent motion in front of us today. I omitted to do this in the previous debate, so I will put the record straight by thanking the committees that have provided information to members about the LCMs that are before us today.

We have here a bill that seeks to protect people. I thank Richard Lochhead for bringing some reality to a bill that may seem, to the millions watching us from the outside, to be strangely worded. We are talking about the world of e-scooters and other potentially challenging products that can put our citizens at risk, and the bill is a way of protecting them.

I also thank Richard Lochhead for the articulate way in which he described what I imagine may, behind the scenes, have been slightly more challenging discussions during the process of moving from the earlier legislative consent memorandums to the one that we have today. I welcome the amendment at UK level that has given the Scottish Government confidence to back the request for legislative consent.

I will leave it there except to say that this may be another part of the footpath that will lead this Parliament and others to look again at legislative consent at the right time.

15:43  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-18080, in the name of Richard Lochhead, on a legislative consent motion on the Product Regulation and Met...
The Minister for Business and Employment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, for the opportunity to debate the motion on legislative consent for the Product Regulation and Metrology Bill. The bill...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Murdo Fraser. You have around six minutes. 15:36
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am sure that the packed chamber and the many millions of people who are riveted as they watch at home will be disappointed to know that I will not be takin...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Part of the reason why they might be relaxed is that it is all just rhetoric and they are not in dynamic alignment with the European Union at all.
Murdo Fraser Con
That might well be the case. I am sure that that is a debate that we could have at another time. I will simply reflect that the Scottish National Party Gover...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This has been a fascinating debate on the legislative consent motion because, in quite amicable terms, it has highlighted one of the challenges that this Par...
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
This legislative consent motion has been discussed several times by the Economy and Fair Work Committee and I will place my concerns about it on the record. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call the minister to wind up. You have around three minutes, minister. 15:46
Richard Lochhead SNP
I thank members for their contributions to the debate. As Murdo Fraser started his speech with the great news that he would curtail his remarks, I feel oblig...
Murdo Fraser Con
Will the minister give way?
Richard Lochhead SNP
I am happy to allow Murdo to extend the debate.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I remind the minister to use full names.
Murdo Fraser Con
I am very grateful to the minister. Will he address the concern, which I outlined in my speech, that although ministers might need to give their consent, the...
Richard Lochhead SNP
As I explained to the committee, if, under the protocol, the UK Government approaches us for consent in relation to any impact on devolved issues, we will wr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
That concludes the debate on the legislative consent motion on the Product Regulation and Metrology Bill.