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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2025

26 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Gull Control

Three minutes. Okay.

I thank Douglas Ross for bringing the debate to the chamber this afternoon. As the motion states, gulls can be a problem and even dangerous.

Problem behaviour is often heightened during nesting season, when vulnerable eggs and chicks need protecting. I have witnessed and experienced the intense behaviour of gulls during nesting season. One gull in my neighbourhood attacked anyone who was near the communal waste bins. I saw another fly at an unsuspecting man as he got out of his car. The large gull swooped, and its beak made contact with the man’s head and drew blood. He was quite shaken by what had happened.

I had my own gull experience a few years ago. I had hung out some washing to dry on a fine, sunny day. When I attempted to retrieve it, I was dive-bombed by a gull. I managed to bring it in only by clutching an open umbrella over my head and making a dash for safety as the gull had another go at me. I fear that, without my brolly, I, too, would have ended up with a gash to the head.

Although it seems amusing to retell the tale, there is a serious issue to deal with, and I believe that NatureScot must do much more to issue licences swiftly when there is evidence of possible harm to humans.

The Scottish Seabird Centre’s briefing pointed to the fact that 70 per cent of Scotland’s seabird species are in decline. We know that that is a result of the impact of climate change, invasive species and a reduction in natural food sources.

I have lived in a top-floor flat for more than 20 years. When I first moved in, I frequently heard the noisy call of herring gulls as they padded across the flat roof. They would fly down to the nearby seashore, pick up small crabs, starfish and sea urchins, and fly back, dropping their catch to break it open on the roof before landing to feed on their meal. They would nest in the chimneys on a nearby row of terraced houses. Interestingly, I do not see or hear them so often now.

RSPB Scotland highlights that herring gull numbers have almost halved since the 1980s. With readily available food from human waste, gulls are increasingly brought into our urban areas. They hover outside fish and chip shops in Lerwick, waiting for a feed. It is not unusual to see them sitting on top of parked cars while, inside, the occupants eat their fish suppers.

I, too, reiterate the advice not to feed the birds, not least because it can attract other wildlife. Gulls are acting naturally in an environment that we have built, and that requires us to change our behaviour so that we can live in greater harmony.

Although we can mitigate some human behaviour, NatureScot must be more proactive in reacting to evidence-based situations when licences are sought. The agency cannot give less importance to the safety and protection of humans than it does to that of gulls. There is a balance to be found.

13:29  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I ask those who are leaving the public gallery to do so as quickly and quietly as possible as we move to the next item of business, which is a members’ busin...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The people who are leaving the public gallery do not know what they are missing, because I am sure that this will be an excellent debate on gulls. A timefram...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I will address the language that is used about gulls in my speech.
Douglas Ross Con
I did not hear that properly. I will give way to Christine Grahame again if she wants to repeat what she said.
Christine Grahame SNP
I do not agree with those terms, and I will address them in a short defence—a cautious defence—of the common gull.
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
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Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
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Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Rhoda Grant Lab
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Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
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Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (Ind) Ind
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Mark Ruskell Green
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Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we are very tight for time. I will have to restrict later speakers to three minutes, as well as extending the debate. 13:18
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (Ind) Ind
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Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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Christine Grahame SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Brian Whittle Con
Of course I will give way to Christine Grahame.
Christine Grahame SNP
“Dive-bombing” is a description of an action. Terms such as “menace” apply a characteristic.
Brian Whittle Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Due to the number of members who still wish to speak in the debate, I am minded to accept a motion without notice, under rule 8.14.3, to extend the debate by...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Beatrice Wishart, to be followed by Liam Kerr. You have up to three minutes, Ms Wishart. 13:26
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Sorry—I missed what you said, Presiding Officer. Did you say three or four minutes?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Three minutes.
Beatrice Wishart LD
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Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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