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Meeting of the Parliament 25 June 2025

25 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education (Scotland) Bill

I thank the Parliament’s legislation team and, following these late sittings, the wider parliamentary staff, as well as Government officials and colleagues across parties for the constructive engagement that we have had on many elements of the bill. I also make special mention of our researchers, from all parties, because they have put in a power of work in attempting to improve the bill.

During stage 3 amendments yesterday, Pam Duncan-Glancy stated that the bill was a “job half done”. I agree. After all, this is the main education bill that has been introduced by the Government during this session of the Parliament.

We should not forget why we are here today. The 2020 exam scandal brought into sharp focus the failings of the SQA and the Scottish National Party ministers at that time. The changes that the bill was meant to take forward to respond to a range of reports and reviews, including the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s review of the curriculum for excellence and Professor Ken Muir’s report “Putting Learners at the Centre: Towards a Future Vision for Scottish Education”, have not been achieved.

I joined the Education, Children and Young People Committee last October, just in time for the signing off of its stage 1 report on the bill. I am sorry to say that it feels as though the bill has been rushed through the Parliament in the last week of term and that it does not reflect what the cross-party report envisaged.

As my friend and colleague Liz Smith has stated, the bill is now the sixth attempt by the SNP Government to reform education in Scotland. It is clear that SNP ministers’ policies and half-baked reforms are not delivering for our young people. The stage 3 process has felt more like the Scottish Government trying not to take forward reform rather than providing a bill that could deliver the full recommendations of the reports of the cross-party committee and Ken Muir.

In addition, the pace at which the bill has moved through the Parliament, landing in the last week of the session, is problematic. Either ministers should have introduced the bill earlier or we should have delayed stage 3 until after the summer recess, so that important discussions—really important discussions—to develop a cross-party consensus could have taken place and the bill could, potentially, have received the confidence of all parties in the chamber, as happened last week in respect of the Deputy First Minister’s work on the Scottish Languages Bill.

Scottish Conservatives have, however, engaged positively and lodged a positive and significant set of amendments to try to shape a stronger bill that would deliver the outcomes that we all want. I note Ross Greer’s comments in the chamber yesterday in relation to the difficulty of legislating for culture change. I agree. However, the failure to take forward as part of the bill important reforms such as the independence of the chief inspector and child protection reforms will not provide the reset or the independence from ministers that the organisations need.

I fear that the Government has ended up in a weaker place and that the bill has ended up as a weaker response, which is not what we need to truly set up qualifications Scotland as a new organisation with the strong foundations that it needed. The question that we are all asking is: what measures in the bill will restore trust? Will the new organisation have a new culture? The jury is still very much out on whether that will be the case.

Scottish Conservatives were clear on our red lines over what we wanted to see in the bill, especially in relation to a new independent school inspector who would report directly to the Parliament. That has not been achieved. I regret that the bill has not been the opportunity that many of us had hoped for.

I approached the bill in the hope that we could genuinely work to restore confidence in our qualifications authority and the inspectorate. It was hoped that the bill would deliver a meaningful reform for Scotland’s education system, which is urgently needed. Instead, it is little more than a rebrand of the SQA.

Splitting the awarding and accreditation functions of the SQA is fundamental to creating a system that works, as the higher history scandal showed, with the SQA not being allowed to continue to mark its own homework. The SQA needed an overhaul, not a cosmetic makeover, and the bill’s proposed changes fall way short of what is required to ensure that the organisation can operate effectively and that it is properly accountable.

I believe that we could have built cross-party consensus on the bill if the minister had given us more time, and if the Parliament had had more time.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-18059, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on the Education (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. I invite members who w...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer, for the opportunity to address the chamber this evening on the Education (Scotland) Bill, following our lengthy and detailed se...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I agree with the cabinet secretary that the bill creates an independent chief inspector of education, but how would she describe the change from the Scottish...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I do not accept that critique from Mr Kerr. Indeed, we have spent two days of parliamentary time debating lengthy amendments that have sought to change the t...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Do I have time in hand, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
There is not really any time in hand, cabinet secretary.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I will give way to Ms Duncan-Glancy.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Does the cabinet secretary admit that the new organisation will have the same functions and the same leadership as the SQA?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I do not accept the member’s latter point about leadership. A new chief executive will be appointed, and a new chair of the existing organisation was appoint...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The cabinet secretary mentioned the accreditation staff in the SQA. It is not only as a result of our deliberations, as the cabinet secretary said, that they...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You have one minute left, cabinet secretary.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I have in front of me a letter from Unite the Union that I quoted to Ms Duncan-Glancy during yesterday’s proceedings. It said that relocating the accreditati...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
For the avoidance of doubt, I clarify that there is no time in hand and that members should please stick to their allocated and agreed speaking times. 20:05
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the Parliament’s legislation team and, following these late sittings, the wider parliamentary staff, as well as Government officials and colleagues a...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
On the member’s point about it being only a cosmetic change, we are going from a situation in which the SQA has a single chief executive to qualifications Sc...
Miles Briggs Con
Those changes will be improvements to the internal structures, and I hope that they work, which is why we have supported the amendments. However, I do not th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I was caught on the hop there. I call Pam Duncan-Glancy to open on behalf of Scottish Labour. 20:11
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Scotland’s young people are our greatest asset, and it is incumbent on us all to legislate to ensure that the education system delivers the greatest opportun...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am listening to Ms Duncan-Glancy. Of course, I have read much of the position in Labour’s press release, but the Labour Party accepted 40 Government handou...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
First, the bill will not abolish the SQA, which is exactly why we will not vote for it. Secondly, we worked with the Government to try to improve the bill be...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
The bill was a long time coming. For me, the cabinet secretary and some others, it has been nine years in the making; for other members who have been here si...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Earlier today, I was reading a speech by Tavish Scott from 2017, in which he made a passionate case for change, but that case was primarily about the inspect...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Rennie. We move to the open debate, with back-bench speeches of up to four minutes. 20:25
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to stand tonight to speak in favour of the Education (Scotland) Bill. As deputy convener of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Davy Russell, who is this evening making his first speech in the Parliament. 20:29
Davy Russell (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer, for giving me the opportunity to make my first speech. Being elected as the member of the Scottish Parliament for Hamilton, La...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Russell. We move to closing speeches. I call Ross Greer to close on behalf of the Scottish Greens. 20:36
Ross Greer Green
I congratulate Davy Russell on making his first speech in the chamber. I find that, nine years in, the novelty and privilege of being in the chamber have cer...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I want to go back to human rights. Articles 28 and 29 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child give our young people the right to an educa...