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Meeting of the Parliament 25 June 2025

25 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Parliamentary Bureau Motion
Carson, Finlay Con Galloway and West Dumfries Watch on SPTV

I oppose the motion to suspend standing orders in relation to the legislative consent memorandum on the Animal Welfare (Import of Dogs, Cats and Ferrets) Bill. I begin by clearly stating that I support the principle of improving animal welfare, and I note that, on the surface, the proposals in the bill appear to support that aim.

In a letter that was received only a few hours ago, the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity, Jim Fairlie, states:

“The proposals included in this Bill are strongly welcomed by animal welfare organisations ... as well as being supported by all political parties”,

and I agree with him. However, right now, we are not here to vote on principles, and I want to raise objections in relation to the opportunity of this place to scrutinise legislation.

In its letter to the minister, the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee made it clear that it has not had the time or capacity to consider the legislative consent memorandum before the motion is due to be debated this afternoon. That is not a procedural inconvenience; it is a fundamental failure of parliamentary scrutiny. The Scottish Parliament is being asked to delegate powers in devolved areas to United Kingdom ministers without sufficient time to consider the implications.

The minister agrees that

“there has not been sufficient time and information for the Committee to review this.”

However, I question his view that

“the Scottish Government have brought this to the attention of the Parliament at the earliest opportunity”,

given that the Senedd in Wales was given twice as long to consider the same bill. Although we appreciate the minister’s response, it does not address the core issue of the limitation on the Parliament’s ability to scrutinise the matter properly.

The bill proposes to give regulation-making powers not only to Scottish ministers but to UK ministers in areas of devolved competence, which raises serious constitutional concerns. Questions on the matter have not been answered. Why is it necessary for UK ministers to have such powers at all? The bill will give the Scottish ministers powers, so it is not clear why UK ministers would need those powers, too.

What criteria should the Scottish Government use to determine whether regulations are to be laid by the Scottish ministers, who are scrutinised here, or by UK ministers, who are scrutinised at Westminster? In his latest letter, which we received this morning, the minister told us that there would be no set criteria and that decisions would be made on individual sets of circumstances, and he spelled out the guiding factors that would influence those decisions.

The minister has said that there may be circumstances where ministers will wish to give consent to UK instruments when policy objectives are aligned, but that is not a sufficient explanation. We need to know what those circumstances are. We need to know what specific criteria will be used to decide when it is appropriate for UK ministers to act in devolved areas, and we need to ensure that the Scottish Parliament is notified and given sufficient time to consider those decisions when they are made. The committee has asked for that information.

We have been told that any UK statutory instruments will be notified to us, but that is a political commitment, and we know that we do not always have time to consider UK SIs following notification.

We have also asked for a breakdown of whether powers in this policy area have been delegated to UK ministers or to Scottish ministers, under their competence. The questions that we have asked are not unreasonable; they are the basic requirements of democratic oversight.

I am speaking not to oppose the policy aims of the bill or the legislative consent memorandum but to defend this Parliament’s role. I do not want us to set a precedent whereby important decisions are rushed through without due process. I want to ensure that the Scottish Parliament retains its rightful role in scrutinising legislation that affects the people of Scotland.

Yes, Scottish legislation takes up parliamentary time, but that is the price of proper scrutiny, that is the price of protecting devolution and that is the price of ensuring that this Parliament—not Westminster—decides how devolved powers are exercised.

For those reasons, I cannot support the motion to suspend standing orders, and I urge colleagues to do the same.

14:05  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is consideration of Parliamentary Bureau motion S6M-18133, on suspension of standing orders. I ask Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the ...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I oppose the motion to suspend standing orders in relation to the legislative consent memorandum on the Animal Welfare (Import of Dogs, Cats and Ferrets) Bil...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
I recognise any member’s right to speak against any motion that has been presented before the Parliament, and I recognise any member’s right to vote against ...
Finlay Carson Con
I do not know whether the minister listened to my speech. The issue is not about this particular legislative consent memorandum; it is about the principle of...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I have heard the convener very clearly, but I do not know whether he was listening to me. The fundamental point is that, in opposing the motion, he is seeki...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I think that we are somewhat puzzled that the Welsh Parliament considered a legislative consent memorandum on the bill some time ago, but we in this Parliame...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I recognise the importance of doing that and, as far as we can, we will always do that. On the point that the Senedd may have granted consent, I respectfull...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
How embarrassing.
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I hear that Mr Kerr thinks that that is embarrassing. He is a great proponent of the Parliament having responsibility for considering such matters, but he wa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The question is, that motion S6M-18133, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on suspension of standing orders, be agreed to. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 14:09 Meeting suspended. 14:16 On resuming—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the division on motion S6M-18133, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on suspension of standing orders. Members s...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Deputy Presiding Officer. My app did not connect; I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Marra.
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Deputy Presiding Officer. I am not sure whether my vote was counted; I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Whitfield. Your vote has been registered.
The Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
On a point of order, Deputy Presiding Officer. I am in the same boat. I am not sure whether my vote was counted; I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Dey. Your vote has been recorded. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eilea...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The result of the division on motion S6M-18133, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on suspension of standing orders, is: Fo...