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Meeting of the Parliament 19 June 2025

19 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Advisory Council on Women and Girls Equality Recommendations
Mackay, Rona SNP Strathkelvin and Bearsden Watch on SPTV

I am pleased to be speaking in this important debate to highlight the key findings in the report of the National Advisory Council on Women and Girls and on the first statement on gender equality coherence.

The statement is vital in tracking the progress of gender equality in public and private life. It is packed full of interesting and sometimes surprising statistics—there are too many to highlight during a short speech, but I will try to sift out some of them.

The SNP has a proud record of fighting for gender equality while in government, and will leave no stone unturned in its work towards equality. From action on equal pay, support for women returning to the workplace and the first gender-balanced Cabinet in the UK, to taking action to end period poverty, we have worked hard to tear down barriers.

However, make no mistake: despite record investment on challenging inequality and norms, there is still a great deal of work to be done, not least in keeping women and girls safe. I am convener of the cross-party group on men’s violence against women and children, which constantly challenges the underpinning issue that affects the safety of women and girls in society—the behaviour of men. Domestic violence is still a scourge in our society.

The equally safe strategy strives to combat all forms of violence against women and girls, including delivering the women’s health plan, which we have been hearing about; investing to tackle domestic violence against women and girls and survivors of abuse; supporting women to access fair work; and helping to reduce the gender pay gap. We are also supporting schools to equip young people with the skills to counter the impacts of online hate, including misogyny, and we are piloting specialist independent legal advice for complainers in rape and attempted rape cases.

A helpful briefing from the Scottish Women’s Budget Group states:

“While there has been some movement towards embedding intersectional gender budgeting, progress remains far too slow”.

In short, we must do better.

Another overriding issue is the lack of essential data to improve the collection, analysis and use of evidence on gender inequality. I am pleased that the Scottish Government is continuing to work with our stakeholders on that important issue. As a member of the Criminal Justice Committee, I am also pleased that we are currently legislating to introduce domestic homicide and suicide reviews, to abolish the not proven verdict, and to establish a sexual offences court and a victims and witnesses commissioner to improve women’s journey through the justice system.

We know that women’s poverty and child poverty are intrinsically linked and that women experience barriers in the labour market, including discriminatory practices and the gender pay gap. It is critical that we address that if we are to improve the lives of women. To that end, we are investing £522 million in 2025-26 to deliver three benefits to support unpaid carers. The 2023-24 carers census shows that 73 per cent of carers are women, so that investment is crucial. We have been talking about our childcare policy of investing around £1 billion in high-quality funded early learning and childcare every year since 2021. Doing so helps to combat poverty, and I would like to see it go further, too. The child payment and the scrapping of the two-child cap are incredibly important and are measures that are not available in the rest of the UK.

We published the women’s health plan and appointed Scotland’s first women’s health champion, as well as investing more than £17 million to support a sexual assault co-ordination service in every health board. I agree with the point that Pam Duncan-Glancy made in her earlier intervention on intersectionality and access to facilities in general practice. That needs to be addressed.

As a member of the gender-sensitive audit advisory panel, I am pleased that we continue to strive to elect more women, and I am confident in our commitment to improve women’s representation at every level of public and private life.

This statement shines a light on not just what we have achieved but what we have yet to achieve to progress equality in the lives of women and girls, now and for the future.

15:48  

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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we have a bit of time in hand, so they will certainly get the time back for interventions. 15:20
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome today’s debate. It is so important to shine a light on what women and girls in Scotland are experiencing today. There is a mismatch—the Scottish Na...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I am struggling to understand what path you are going down. What you are talking about is not in the report that we are supposed to be debating.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Speak through the chair.
Tess White Con
Ms Mackay might like to listen to my speech—if she does, she will find out. Meanwhile, the SNP’s proposed misogyny bill is just the latest in a litany of pa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
For the sake of clarity, it is up to the chair to determine whether noise in the chamber is contravening the rules on courtesy and respect. I discourage conv...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. We, of course, welcome any and all action to improve the position of women and girls in society...
Tess White Con
Will Katy Clark take an intervention?
Katy Clark Lab
I am just about to conclude, so I am not sure whether it would be appropriate, but I am happy to take an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You can certainly get the time back.
Tess White Con
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Katy Clark Lab
I would not want to comment on a specific case, and I do not know the specific case that Tess White refers to. More generally, we must ensure that the dispos...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Meghan Gallacher Con
Alex Cole-Hamilton is talking about issues in relation to women’s health, but what about young women’s health? We know that young women, particularly those f...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We now move to the open debate. 15:43
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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