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Meeting of the Parliament 19 June 2025

19 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Advisory Council on Women and Girls Equality Recommendations

Meghan Gallacher makes an excellent point. It is incumbent on us all, in debates such as this one, to remind young women in particular of the health interventions that are available to them, which could keep them in better health or even save their lives or protect their unborn children. I will come on to talk about younger women if I have time.

The appointment of Professor Anna Glasier as Scotland’s first women’s health champion was absolutely a step forward, but for many, the progress still feels painfully slow.

Endometriosis is another stark example of an area that is misunderstood. Too many women continue to suffer for years before receiving a proper diagnosis or treatment. That is not equality of healthcare.

If we are serious about gender equality, we must also transform access to work. Today, women in Scotland are more likely to be in insecure work, stuck in low-paid, stereotypically female sectors, and less likely to reach senior roles, even with the same qualifications as their male peers and even with the policies that the Parliament has introduced. That is still a fact. That must change.

The 1,140 hours of free childcare for three and four-year-olds is key to that. As we know, the bulk of childcare still falls on women, despite our wish to change our societal norms. Across much of Scotland, local authorities are cutting back on that provision by providing free hours from the term after the child’s third birthday, rather than from the day after their birthday. That means that many families are missing out on up to four months of free provision. Again, women bear the brunt of that.

The Government needs to ensure that local authorities are provided with the funding that they need to roll out support consistently across the country to avoid that postcode lottery. The last thing that mothers who are trying to return to work need is an unfair roadblock. My party wants to go further by extending funded entitlements so that more two-year-olds get the benefit, with a view to extending the provision to one-year-olds as well.

However, all those policies must be backed with workforce support, proper pay and reliable delivery, or they risk becoming empty promises. That brings me to the unpaid workforce that keeps our society going. In 2023-24, 73 per cent of unpaid carers were women. One in four economically inactive women cited looking after family and home as the reason for their being economically inactive. That is nearly four times the rate of men.

The Liberal Democrats have consistently championed carers’ rights, and we have led calls to make the carers allowance system fairer and more flexible. We won an increase in the earnings threshold for carers allowance, allowing unpaid carers to earn more from part-time work without losing vital support through benefits.

I welcome the ambition and focus of the annual statement, but action and delivery are what count.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-18016, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on progressing the National Advisory Council on Women and ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
Today, the Scottish Government published its first annual statement following recommendations from the National Advisory Council on Women and Girls. The stat...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I have a question on the point about the women’s health plan. Does the cabinet secretary agree that the situation for disabled women in Glasgow who seek to a...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I thank Pam Duncan-Glancy for that comment. She points—probably not for the first time today—to a discussion that is exceptionally important, which is about ...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
On the point of childcare, there are councils across the country that are not allowing eligible two and three-year-olds to access the 1,140 hours of free fun...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
We have to look in general at ensuring that there is sufficient, good-quality provision that is available flexibly in a way that aligns with what parents nee...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Liberal Democrats are very supportive of the work that the Government is outlining today. The cabinet secretary mentioned the strategy that is to be forthcom...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
The member has raised an exceptionally important point. As I look around the chamber, I see that it is mostly women who are here, as is often the case when w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we have a bit of time in hand, so they will certainly get the time back for interventions. 15:20
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome today’s debate. It is so important to shine a light on what women and girls in Scotland are experiencing today. There is a mismatch—the Scottish Na...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I am struggling to understand what path you are going down. What you are talking about is not in the report that we are supposed to be debating.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Speak through the chair.
Tess White Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. We, of course, welcome any and all action to improve the position of women and girls in society...
Tess White Con
Will Katy Clark take an intervention?
Katy Clark Lab
I am just about to conclude, so I am not sure whether it would be appropriate, but I am happy to take an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You can certainly get the time back.
Tess White Con
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Katy Clark Lab
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats but I am ashamed that, as the cabinet secretary rightly pointed out, I am one of only four ...
Meghan Gallacher Con
Alex Cole-Hamilton is talking about issues in relation to women’s health, but what about young women’s health? We know that young women, particularly those f...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Meghan Gallacher makes an excellent point. It is incumbent on us all, in debates such as this one, to remind young women in particular of the health interven...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We now move to the open debate. 15:43
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to be speaking in this important debate to highlight the key findings in the report of the National Advisory Council on Women and Girls and on t...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to debate an issue that is close to me and many of my fellow female MSPs across the chamber. Equality between men and women, and bo...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Sharon Dowey, I can give you the time back.
Sharon Dowey Con
I think that the EHRC ruling was quite clear, and I do not think that there is any way that we need to wait for the guidance to come out. I would like to kno...