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Meeting of the Parliament 18 June 2025

18 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
RAAC in Council and Former Council Housing

I congratulate my colleague Liam Kerr on achieving cross-party support on the topic of the debate. I also congratulate him for his work on it—he is not just standing up for his constituents but raising RAAC as an important issue for the Scottish Parliament to consider.

As this is my first opportunity to do so, I welcome Màiri McAllan back to Parliament following her maternity leave, and congratulate her on her new post as Cabinet Secretary for Housing. I look forward to working with her over the next few months.

I am relieved that the penny has finally dropped for the Scottish Government. I have long argued that housing should be a stand-alone portfolio, and should sit in the Cabinet. That is the only way that we can ensure that the Scottish Government can be held fully to account on progress on tackling the deepening housing emergency. I am certain that one of the many issues that the cabinet secretary will be well aware of is RAAC—specifically, how the Government will remediate properties that are affected by reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete.

I will not ask the cabinet secretary how many properties are affected by RAAC, because we all know the answer that I would get. I tried to obtain that figure from the previous housing minister, but was unsuccessful, because the Scottish Government has not got a clue. We know from data that has been collected by the Scottish Housing Regulator that around 2,500 social housing units have been identified as containing RAAC. However, although 145 social landlords have confirmed that no RAAC is in their properties, some are still investigating. Of course, those figures do not include home owners, many of whom are conducting their own investigations to find out what position they are in.

Despite knowing for years that RAAC could present a serious public health risk, the Scottish Government has failed to address the issue head on. RAAC hotlines have been set up to try to identify the exact number of people who live in homes that are riddled with RAAC, but, frankly, it is embarrassing that we are no further forward than we were when the issue was raised in 2019, after the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service identified the presence of RAAC in fire stations. That is why my colleague Liam Kerr’s members’ business debate this afternoon is important.

On 22 April, at a meeting of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, the former housing minister promised that he would meet local residents in Aberdeen in May. That is on the official record, and I am pleased that that meeting took place. That could have been an opportunity to alleviate the concerns of local residents and for the Scottish Government to commit to a plan to assist home owners to remediate their homes. However, again, we are no further forward.

At the same time, cash-strapped councils face mounting repair bills to fix RAAC in public buildings and thousands of Scots have been forced out of their homes while the value of their properties plummets. As was the case with the 150 privately owned affected properties in Torry, the buy-back offers that are proposed by councils are likely to be significantly less than the homes were bought for. That is a grave injustice that home owners, through no fault of their own, are suffering because of Scottish Government inaction.

Lastly, I raise the issue of the disparity in the approaches that are outlined by local government. Some councils have opted for demolition, while others try to remediate. As there has been no leadership and no direction from central Government, that has undoubtedly led to inconsistency across the board, which means that RAAC remediation is a postcode lottery.

We have a new opportunity, however, as we now have a Cabinet Secretary for Housing who will sit at the top tier of Government. She has an opportunity to do three things. First, she can meet with the campaign groups in order to fully understand their concerns and the issues that they have continuously raised and campaigned on. Secondly, she can create a plan to work with local authorities to ensure that remediation options are consistent and that they prevent upheaval for home owners specifically. Thirdly, she can outline—finally—whether the Scottish Government will assist with the remediation of privately owned homes. That is the very least that the Government can do in order to provide the reassurance and clarity that many people across Scotland desperately need, given that the properties that they own are affected by RAAC.

17:56  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 17:47
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
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Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP
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Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will take the intervention in a second. I want to reassure them that they do not need to worry that there will be any lack of continuity between their meet...
Liam Kerr Con
I will cut to the chase. I am sure that residents would be grateful for a meeting, but they would be even more grateful if you would just release the £20 mil...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will come to some of the solutions that are on the table in a second, but Liam Kerr included the point about a meeting in his motion, so I want to do him a...
Meghan Gallacher Con
If memory serves me well, my point was about having more talking shops, more ministerial engagements and so on. That is not progress. What people need is con...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I appreciate Meghan Gallacher’s point. As I have said, I will come on to talk about solutions very soon, but it is important not to mislead the public. Progr...
Maggie Chapman Green
The cabinet secretary says that residents should seek help and get a survey, but the cost of that is a challenge in the first place. There are also people wh...
Màiri McAllan SNP
That point underlines the importance of identifying and remediating RAAC wherever it exists, particularly in mixed-tenure properties. I turn to some of the ...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary accept an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am very short of time. Do I have any time in hand?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back.
Màiri McAllan SNP
Thank you. I will take the intervention.
Liam Kerr Con
Residents will, of course, ask exactly the question that I am about to ask. We do not have a lot of time, so how soon will that decision be made?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I appreciate that and will endeavour to make the decision as soon as possible. Liam Kerr will understand that I must consider the terms of that decision very...