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Meeting of the Parliament 18 June 2025

18 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
RAAC in Council and Former Council Housing
Kerr, Liam Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I thank colleagues from the Greens, Labour, the Liberal Democrats and, of course, the Scottish Conservatives for signing my motion. It is notable, but regrettable, that there is not a single signature from any member of the Scottish National Party. However, I genuinely thank Audrey Nicoll, the incumbent MSP for the constituency that is becoming Aberdeen Deeside and North Kincardine; her refreshing unwillingness to toe the party line and her willingness to stand with me for her constituents contrast directly with the approach of Aberdeen’s absent member of Parliament and that of the council co-leader, Christian Allard, who, last month, was delivering leaflets for himself 70 miles away in Angus. Only yesterday, Mr Allard was quoted as saying that the Torry home owners will be out by winter; that followed on from him asking one owner whether they had considered bankruptcy as a solution.

That aside, in December 2023, nine landlords confirmed the presence of RAAC in 953 council homes; that does not include former council homes. In that year, Aberdeen City Council warned that around 500 homes in the Balnagask area in Aberdeen contained RAAC. Of those, 150 were private homes, whose owners were told that the council would buy their houses at the post-RAAC value. I ask members to imagine the situation: either to stay in a house where the roof might fall in, or to accept the lower price and move elsewhere instead, with £40,000 or perhaps £50,000 of outstanding mortgage left over their head. The consequences are disastrous.

At The Press and Journal’s “Trapped by RAAC” panel event, Torry general practitioner Dr Crofton said that his practice is looking after 60 people with new health problems that the situation has caused. Patients are reporting depression, anxiety, insomnia and stress-related conditions such as chest pains. Some, tragically, have turned to drink, and, in one particularly harrowing testimony, one dad reported that he was considering driving into the harbour so that his family could get the insurance.

Residents report a community torn apart, children separated from friendship groups and elderly and disabled people ripped from their support networks, all for the sake of £5 million, which, according to campaigner Raymond Davidson, could ensure that those home owners got the proper value for their homes and could—literally—move on.

It is appalling and shocking, but not as shocking as the buck passing that we have seen. Campaigners have seen councils and the Scottish Government desperately try to blame the United Kingdom Government. Even today, the new Cabinet Secretary for Housing spent longer pointing at Westminster than proposing solutions, yet RAAC is a devolved matter.

Of course, whenever Westminster tries to intervene directly—for example, on freeports, investment zones or shared prosperity funds—this Government kicks up about undermining devolution. Even were it not so, let us never forget that, in 2020 and 2021, the UK Government gave the Scottish Government more than £97 million to remedy the Grenfell cladding issue. Five years on, the SNP can account for only around £10 million of that having been spent.

Meanwhile, Aberdeen City Council pleads poverty, while ignoring every solution that is put forward by the home owners. I accept that Aberdeen City Council is cash strapped, following years of SNP underfunding. Nonetheless, the council’s budget is nearly £1.5 billion a year, and it makes choices as to how it spends that, with residents being only too aware of the choices that it is currently making.

As campaigners have noted, the former SNP councillor Alex Nicoll explained at last week’s panel event that, under the Local Government in Scotland Act 2003, councils can go to the housing minister to ask for funds to be reclassified, but—as he said—the councils had never collectively done that.

Let us be clear: the Scottish Government has not given a single penny to the Torry home owners. As with the council, that is about choices. The block grant has been at record levels since the pandemic and, this year, it is £50 billion. Last week’s spending review announced an extra £2.9 billion coming to Holyrood on top of that. It is the Scottish Government that chooses not to spend £5 million to alleviate the problem.

However, it is apparently okay that Scotland has spent £3.5 million on independence planning since 2021 and £5 million in three years on public consultations, and that the around 130 Scottish quangos have had £120 million to spend annually on public relations, external consultants, overseas travel and hospitality.

Even allowing for those poor choices, I have flagged a £20 million pot from the Aberdeen city region deal for housing projects of exactly the sort that we are discussing today, and yet not a single penny has been drawn down since 2016. If that money is not drawn down by 2027, it will disappear. It will be absorbed back into the coffers of the Scottish Government to pay for whatever it chooses, which, this week, would seem to be special advisers and lawyers.

Since the turn of the year, I have sent six letters to the Scottish Government, asking it to release those funds, but the former Minister for Housing refused to budge. Then, in early May, Aberdeen City Council said that it and Aberdeenshire Council have made at least 12 applications for the money but are continually rebuffed because they do not meet the criteria.

What are the criteria? The councils say that the Government, in the past nine years, has not told them. I wrote to the housing minister around six weeks ago, requesting urgent answers. He had not the courtesy to respond to me before he slunk away, so, on hearing of the new cabinet secretary’s appointment last Thursday, I immediately forwarded the letter and pleaded for urgent answers. I have yet to receive a response, but perhaps she will tell us all in her closing remarks.

We have heard—and throughout the debate, we will hear—about communities whose hopes and dreams stand on shaky foundations as a result of decisions that were made decades ago and the slopy shoulders of politicians today. Will it take a tragedy, and a Netflix documentary, before the SNP takes responsibility and does the right thing?

The cabinet secretary faces a choice today. At the stroke of a pen, she can instantly make it right for the people of Torry and the thousands of people across Scotland who are trapped by RAAC, and—quite literally—save people’s lives. Alternatively, she can ignore the home owners, follow the instructions of the SNP hierarchy, shift blame and forever reflect on the consequences of inaction. I pray that she chooses wisely.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 17:47
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I thank Liam Kerr for bringing the debate to the chamber. It is an issue that impacts on our constituents and, although we are on different parts of the poli...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I start with an apology, Deputy Presiding Officer, to you, Liam Kerr and other members in the chamber for missing the opening sentences of what was a powerfu...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I am grateful to Liam Kerr for securing the debate, and I echo other members’ comments in welcoming the cabinet secretary to her new role. At the heart of t...
The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I am very grateful to have had the opportunity to hear members’ reflections on the debate, and I am grateful to Liam Kerr for securing it. I am very pleased...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will take the intervention in a second. I want to reassure them that they do not need to worry that there will be any lack of continuity between their meet...
Liam Kerr Con
I will cut to the chase. I am sure that residents would be grateful for a meeting, but they would be even more grateful if you would just release the £20 mil...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Always speak through the chair.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will come to some of the solutions that are on the table in a second, but Liam Kerr included the point about a meeting in his motion, so I want to do him a...
Meghan Gallacher Con
If memory serves me well, my point was about having more talking shops, more ministerial engagements and so on. That is not progress. What people need is con...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I appreciate Meghan Gallacher’s point. As I have said, I will come on to talk about solutions very soon, but it is important not to mislead the public. Progr...
Maggie Chapman Green
The cabinet secretary says that residents should seek help and get a survey, but the cost of that is a challenge in the first place. There are also people wh...
Màiri McAllan SNP
That point underlines the importance of identifying and remediating RAAC wherever it exists, particularly in mixed-tenure properties. I turn to some of the ...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary accept an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am very short of time. Do I have any time in hand?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back.
Màiri McAllan SNP
Thank you. I will take the intervention.
Liam Kerr Con
Residents will, of course, ask exactly the question that I am about to ask. We do not have a lot of time, so how soon will that decision be made?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I appreciate that and will endeavour to make the decision as soon as possible. Liam Kerr will understand that I must consider the terms of that decision very...