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Meeting of the Parliament 18 June 2025

18 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Economic Performance (A Better Deal for Taxpayers)
Hoy, Craig Con South Scotland Watch on SPTV

I have a lot of waste to identify, so I will give way later if I can.

The SNP is costing Scotland £1 billion a year in lost growth and countless billions more through incompetence and waste. The SNP Government boasts that its so-called progressive taxation—a system that taxes nurses and teachers more—is bringing in £1.7 billion a year, but the Scottish Fiscal Commission estimates that there is an economic performance gap between Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom of £1.1 billion in this year alone. We know what is really going on: the impact of the SNP’s tax rises on Scots feel very real indeed, but the benefits are simply another SNP false promise.

That missing billion, in black and white, is the true cost of John Swinney. The Fiscal Commission is being characteristically diplomatic in describing it as an “economic performance gap”. I call it the deep and corrosive economic effect of 18 years of an anti-growth, anti-business SNP Government.

Every independent forecaster, from the Institute for Fiscal Studies to the Office for Budget Responsibility, the SFC and the Fraser of Allander Institute, warns that the SNP Government cannot continue on the fiscal and spending path that it is on. A benefits bill that is set to soar to £10 billion by the end of the year is £2 billion more than the Government can afford. The number of senior civil servants is soaring, and quango after quango is spewing out bizarre and costly recommendations and regulations. John Swinney’s high-tax, low-growth Scotland simply cannot continue. That means taking the SNP’s client state head on.

When we brought forward our fully costed plans for tax cuts this year, Shona Robison said that they would be impossible. However, on Monday, John Swinney finally admitted that she has got it wrong, announcing that, this week, the SNP Government will reveal £1 billion of SNP waste that the SNP itself has identified. However, when the SNP talks of public sector reform, we do not expect much action.

We would deliver it, however. We would reduce the size of the civil service back to pre-2016 levels within five years. We would introduce a new taxpayer savings act to cut the number of quangos by a quarter, through closing down and merging unnecessary bodies such as the Scottish Land Commission and Community Justice Scotland and creating a Scottish agency of value and efficiency—SAVE—a short-term, business-led body that is designed to mount a war on waste to claw back £500 million of misspent public money. We would introduce tighter public spending rules that would clamp down on the frivolous use of taxpayers’ money and introduce sanctions on individuals who breach those rules. We would apply a zero-based accounting system to the annual budgetary process of the Scottish Government, and we would go on to reduce red tape on public services such as the national health service by reducing their statutory reporting requirements. We would also slash the cost of government, making efficiencies in public relations and human resources departments. That would mean more doctors, fewer spin doctors and more shared service hubs across government.

We would make sure that every public sector worker is focused on delivering for taxpayers. We would ban woke roles in equality, diversity and inclusion. We would end once and for all the Scottish Government’s obsession with gender issues, and ban the production of all non-statutory guidance that relates to gender identity or trans issues across the public sector.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17980, in the name of Craig Hoy, on demanding a better deal for taxpayers in Scotland. I invite members w...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Under the Scottish National Party, Scots are being hammered with high taxes while public services continue to decline. That is why the motion that I will mov...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Ind
Will the member give way?
Craig Hoy Con
I have a lot of waste to identify, so I will give way later if I can. The SNP is costing Scotland £1 billion a year in lost growth and countless billions mo...
John Mason Ind
Craig Hoy has given some examples, which is what I was going to ask him for. He says that we want to save on railways. Does that mean that safety goes down? ...
Craig Hoy Con
I will gladly give to John Mason the two papers that I have that detail everything that we can do to cut the horrendous waste across the Scottish public sect...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
The investment that we are making this year in our public services is made possible by the tax choices that we have made and the vital additional funding tha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Cabinet secretary, please resume your seat. I will set some parameters here. I appreciate that some individuals are seeking to make an intervention, which is...
Shona Robison SNP
Their position is not credible and the public knows that it is not credible, which is why the Tories have such low support among the public.
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
In Mr Hoy’s speech, he spelt out exactly what measures the Conservatives are going to take. Why can the cabinet secretary not admit that?
Shona Robison SNP
We know the standard of what is provided by the Tories—unfunded tax cuts made on the back of a fag packet. We will take no lessons from a party that destroye...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Johnson, please do not.
Shona Robison SNP
Michael Marra seems to want to defend that for some strange reason. The Conservatives proposed almost £1 billion in tax cuts last year in advance of the budg...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for giving way. When did she first become aware that there were at least £1 billion of savings to be made in efficienc...
Shona Robison SNP
I am sure that Stephen Kerr will be on the front bench tomorrow to hear Ivan McKee’s statement on public service reform, in which he will set out the work th...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Shona Robison SNP
I will later, if I have time. Since 2007, gross domestic product per person in Scotland has grown by 10.3 per cent, compared with 6.1 per cent in the UK, an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It will need to be very brief, Mr Johnson.
Daniel Johnson Lab
Would the cabinet secretary care to quote those figures since 2016 and acknowledge whether they are higher or lower for Scotland compared with the UK for tha...
Shona Robison SNP
It is the long-term growth that matters. Interruption. I do not know why Daniel Johnson and the Opposition—
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
No, thank you. I do not know why Daniel Johnson and the Opposition cannot accept that it is a good thing that, since 2007, gross domestic product per person ...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Craig Hoy Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The cabinet secretary is now in her final minute.
Shona Robison SNP
Craig Hoy talked about an economic performance gap, but Professor Graeme Roy from the Scottish Fiscal Commission has been clear that, in the context of incom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You will need to conclude.
Shona Robison SNP
To come back to the point about public service reform, tomorrow Ivan McKee will set out the detail of what we have been doing and what we will do. We will do...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In what is a feat of surprisingly accurate economic analysis that you would not expect from the acolytes of Liz Truss, the Scottish Tories have pinpointed on...
Liz Smith Con
Will Michael Marra give way?