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Meeting of the Parliament 17 June 2025

17 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 3

I will speak to amendments 13 to 16, 1 and 2, all in my name. Amendments 13 to 16 relate to the process by which areas will be designated as areas of linguistic significance. As it stands, the bill will already enable a local authority to designate part of its area as an ALS when certain criteria are met. However, as the legislation is currently drafted, that designation is discretionary. My amendments would strengthen the framework by introducing a clear duty that an area that

“contains a significant number of people with Gaelic language skills ... must be designated as an area of linguistic significance”.

That change is essential. If Gaelic is to be protected where it is most at risk and supported where it is most widely spoken, the bill should provide more than optional powers; it must create obligations.

Amendment 13 would introduce a new subsection into section 1A of the Gaelic Language (Scotland) Act 2005 to require that any area with a significant Gaelic-speaking population be designated as an ALS. Amendment 14 would delete the existing provision that will allow but not require such designations to be made. Amendments 15 and 16 would make consequential changes to ensure that the duty is fully reflected across section 1A.

Taken together, the amendments would shift the emphasis in the bill. We know from evidence to the Education, Children and Young People Committee and from decades of advocacy by Gaelic communities that policy must begin with place. Those amendments would make sure that it does.

Amendments 1 and 2, in my name, would be an important part of the local authority process for designating areas of linguistic significance. Those amendments would ensure that, at certain stages in the process, the local authority must consult community representatives from an area that is likely to be designated. That will be an essential part of the process: the local authority will designate—and that is important—but decisions to designate and the activity that flows from that designation will be for the local community, and it is right that its voice is clearly heard.

Amendment 22 in my name would provide for an important new democratic right: the ability for communities to request that their area be considered for designation as an area of linguistic significance. The bill already establishes a framework in which local authorities can designate an ALS, and other amendments that I have lodged would create duties to do so where Gaelic-speaking populations are significant. However, the amendment would go a step further and give communities the ability to trigger that process. That is important, because, too often, policy is done to communities, not with them—nowhere is that more true than in rural, island, and Gaelic-speaking parts of our country.

The amendment would do three things. First, it would allow any community to make a formal request to its local authority to consider designation. Secondly, if a local authority decides not to proceed with that designation, it would have to set out its reasons and make those reasons public. Thirdly, the amendment would create a right of appeal. Communities would be able to challenge a decision not to designate via a process that would be set out by ministers in regulations. The amendment would ensure that linguistic planning is not only responsive to community need, but accountable to it, and it would empower communities to speak for themselves.

Together, the amendments would create a vital step in realising the community-led approach that the bill aspires to.

I move amendment 13.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Scottish Languages Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have the bill as amended at s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Group 1 is on areas of linguistic significance. Amendment 13, in the name of Pam Duncan-Glancy, is grouped with amendments 14 to 18, 1, 2, 19 to 23 and 65.
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I will speak to amendments 13 to 16, 1 and 2, all in my name. Amendments 13 to 16 relate to the process by which areas will be designated as areas of linguis...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Emma Roddick to speak to amendment 17 and other amendments in the group.
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Tapadh leibh, Oifigeir Riaghlaidh. The bill makes provision for local authorities to designate areas of linguistic significance. Those will be areas in which...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Ross Greer to speak to amendment 65 and other amendments in the group.
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Feasgar math. Amendment 65 would require local authorities to develop local Gaelic plans for the designated areas of linguistic significance, in consultation...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
Although this group will take slightly longer to deal with, and my remarks will therefore be longer than for the other groups, it is appropriate that we star...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Will the Deputy First Minister set out which part of amendment 13 is unclear? My understanding is that it is quite clear. It creates a specific definition ab...
Kate Forbes SNP
I thank the member for that question, because it is a helpful cue from which to proceed. The requirement in the amendment does not specify the size or the t...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I am not sure that I entirely agree about the confusion, given that, on the most important part of the change, the bill already says that an “area may be des...
Kate Forbes SNP
Yes, but the fact that the amendment says “must” and would therefore create a mandatory obligation to designate an area would lead to huge questions about wh...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Made a request to intervene.
Kate Forbes SNP
I appreciate that the member disagrees with that and that she wants to intervene again. I am very happy to take that intervention.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
What process does the Deputy First Minister think there is for people who believe that their area should be designated? If the legislation says only that an ...
Kate Forbes SNP
As the member will know, we will consider a number of amendments today that will strengthen the provisions, and I will come on to those. Having heard loud an...
Ross Greer Green
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for offering points of reassurance around the guidance. Will she address my specific concern that there is a requireme...
Kate Forbes SNP
That is a very fair point. One criticism that has been made is that there is a lot of duplication and overlap. If we believe in grass-roots community work, w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Pam Duncan-Glancy to wind up and to press or seek to withdraw amendment 13.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I have listened carefully to the Deputy First Minister’s comments. She highlighted three specific backstops in the bill, but I would argue that those backsto...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The question is, that amendment 13 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
There will be a division. There will be a suspension to allow members to log in to the digital voting system. 16:03 Meeting suspended. 16:10 On resuming—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the vote on amendment 13. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is closed.
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My system would not connect in time. If it had, I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Leonard. I will make sure that that is recorded.
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My apologies. My system was not updating. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Ms Slater. I will ensure that that is recorded.
Foysol Choudhury (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am having some issues with my app. I am not sure whether my vote registered.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can assure you that your vote was recorded, Mr Choudhury.
Foysol Choudhury Lab
Thank you.