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Meeting of the Parliament 12 June 2025

12 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Migration
Forbes, Kate SNP Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch Watch on SPTV

I do, and anecdotes like that could be replicated in many different parts of Scotland. Employers frequently put it to me that migration is an area where they want to see progress, because they see it as an effective solution to the challenges that they face.

We have data that demonstrates the huge impact that immigrants have on our economy. Research that was commissioned by the Federation of Small Businesses in 2019 found that immigrant-led small and medium-sized enterprises generated £13 billion in revenues and 107,000 jobs. We want to attract more entrepreneurs to Scotland, in line with our long-term vision.

Using existing devolved powers, we launched Scotland’s migration service in 2024 to support migrants and Scottish-based employers in navigating the UK immigration system to meet their relocation and business needs. Through it, we are always looking at ways in which we can support businesses, short of having control over immigration.

It will come as no surprise that, like many sectors and industries, we are deeply concerned about some of the policy approaches that are contained in the UK Government’s recently published immigration white paper. It failed to take on board our proposals for action that meets our needs. The plans are likely to have a severe impact on migration to rural areas of Scotland that already face significant demographic and economic challenges.

I strongly believe that we need an immigration system that reflects our distinct demographic, economic and social needs. For example, the hospitality sector was very reliant on workers from the EU before Brexit, and, in 2019, 20 per cent of hospitality workers were non-UK nationals compared with 8 per cent in the wider Scottish economy. In spite of concerted efforts to retain workers, however, there are still 30,000 fewer people working in the sector today than there were pre-Brexit.

There is a case to be made for tailored migration routes for Scotland. We proposed a Scottish graduate visa, which would allow international graduates from Scottish universities to stay in Scotland for two years to gain work experience before transitioning to a skilled-worker visa. When I was first elected, I was often struck by the fact that there was cross-party support for the post-graduate visa from both the Conservatives and Labour. It was a tailored, nuanced approach that enjoyed cross-party support, and we want to see that again. UK ministers could choose to support us on that. We had the fresh talent working in Scotland scheme between 2005 and 2008, which I am very happy to say was a Labour Party initiative. The point is that I think we can still speak with one voice on the importance of migration to Scotland and of working collaboratively to have a tailored approach for Scotland.

Migration enriches our society and makes a net contribution to our economy, our public services and our public finances. It is the fertiliser that helps us to thrive, innovate and grow in the face of demographic challenges. We cannot wish those challenges away, but there are things that we can do within our devolved powers. However, we cannot expand the workforce completely without control over migration, so I invite members from across the chamber to join us in making this call.

I move,

That the Parliament recognises the contribution to Scotland’s communities, public services and economy by those who have chosen to migrate to Scotland and build their lives here; notes that stakeholders from multiple sectors across Scotland have expressed significant concerns with the UK Government’s immigration white paper, and that proposals submitted by the Scottish Government to the Home Office were not included in the published paper; further notes that the Parliament has previously endorsed a motion calling for the development of a differentiated, more flexible migration policy, tailored to meet Scotland’s specific needs; calls on the UK Government to engage with Scottish Government officials urgently to ensure that the needs of Scotland’s businesses, public services and communities are supported, rather than harmed, by the reforms outlined in the UK immigration white paper, and further calls on the UK Government to ensure that a new youth mobility scheme is designed, with engagement from young people across the UK nations, to be as broad and inclusive as possible, restoring the greatest freedom of movement for young people as can be agreed with the EU.

15:35  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17906, in the name of Kate Forbes, on a migration system that works for Scotland. I invite members who wi...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
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Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
The Deputy First Minister is absolutely right to focus on how we maximise people’s participation in the workforce. Has there been any analysis of why economi...
Kate Forbes SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Kate Forbes SNP
I absolutely agree. The National Records of Scotland, among others, forecasts double-digit reductions in population, particularly across coastal and island c...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Kate Forbes SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Liz Smith Con
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Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Liz Smith Con
Will I get a little time back?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Yes.
Daniel Johnson Lab
Liz Smith is making a really interesting contribution about some of the nuances in the labour market. Is there also a broader, global context, in which world...
Liz Smith Con
That is a very good point from Mr Johnson. I think that he is right that there is a global context to the issue, which is important. When I was elected to t...
Kate Forbes SNP
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Liz Smith Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Michael Marra to speak to and move amendment S6M-17906.2. 15:44
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Michael Marra Lab
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Michael Marra Lab
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Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Michael Marra Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we have a little bit of time in hand. If members take interventions, they will certainly get the time back. 15:50
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 16:00