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Meeting of the Parliament 04 June 2025

04 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Empowering Entrepreneurs and Innovators
Fraser, Murdo Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I welcome the fact that we are having another debate on the economy. We now have something of a trend of economy debates, which is a welcome departure from the previous state of affairs, when we would go for long periods without discussing Scotland’s economic performance. That is a good change on the part of the Government. Today’s focus on entrepreneurship and innovation is welcome, so I am delighted to be here.

Before I come to what needs to be done, I want to start by looking at the Scottish Government’s track record, given that it has been in power in Scotland for some 18 years. The fact is that, throughout that period, Scotland’s business start-up rate has consistently lagged behind that of the UK as a whole. According to the latest figures, which are from 2024, Scotland has a business stock of 762 businesses per 10,000 adults. The UK average is 996, so we are lagging far behind. That gap is particularly stark among the smallest businesses, where the figure is 738 per 10,000 adults for the UK but just 544 per 10,000 adults for Scotland. It is clear that we have a systemic issue whereby Scotland’s level of private sector business activity is lower than the UK average.

According to last year’s Global Entrepreneurship Monitor report for Scotland, Scotland’s total early-stage entrepreneurial activity, which is known as the TEA rate, was the lowest in the UK nations in 2023. The overall TEA rate for the UK was 10.7, Scotland’s was 9.1, Wales’s was 11.5—it was doing very well—England’s was 10.1 and Northern Ireland’s was 9.7.

On all those measures, Scotland lags behind, so we welcome any initiatives to improve the rate of entrepreneurship and the rate of business start-up, so that they at least match the levels that we see elsewhere in the UK.

We know that there are particular sectors of society in which we have issues in encouraging people to start up a business. That is particularly the case with women and members of ethnic minority groups, as the Deputy First Minister acknowledged. I pay tribute to the work that Women’s Enterprise Scotland does in offering support, particularly mentoring and the promotion of role models for women who wish to set up and be involved in business.

If the Scottish Government wants to encourage entrepreneurship and innovation, a really good starting point would be to listen to entrepreneurs, and Scotland has no more high-profile an example of a successful entrepreneur than Sir Tom Hunter. If the cabinet secretary has not read the report on how we might encourage economic growth that was published by the Hunter Foundation just a few weeks ago, I encourage her to do so.

The Hunter Foundation and Oxford Economics together highlight the success of Singapore—a small economy with few natural resources that is, in many ways, in a much less privileged position than Scotland—as an example from which we could learn lessons. Singapore is a country with a strong innovation ecosystem, significant investment in education and lifelong learning to help build a skilled and employable workforce, and a long-term strategy.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17785, in the name of Kate Forbes, on empowering entrepreneurs and innovators. I invite members who wish ...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
Entrepreneurs and innovators are the catalysts of growth that shape our economy. From the moment that I first entered Government, I have championed that agen...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Made a request to intervene.
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
Yes—although you do not look like Sharon Dowey.
Craig Hoy Con
Do I need to change, Presiding Officer, or can I simply self-declare?
Kate Forbes SNP
I am relaxed as to whether it is Sharon Dowey or Craig Hoy who intervenes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Let us go with Craig Hoy.
Craig Hoy Con
I think that we have corrected the record, but I have slightly lost my train of thought. The minister is talking about young and ambitious entrepreneurs who...
Kate Forbes SNP
Absolutely. As a representative of Scotland’s islands—which I think that Craig Hoy mentioned—I would absolutely recommend that. A number of brilliant start-u...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I agree that we should champion success but, to truly succeed, we also need to acknowledge that there are issues. The Deputy First Minister might quote those...
Kate Forbes SNP
It is precisely because we needed to confront some of the challenges four years ago that we embarked on this journey to support Scottish entrepreneurs. The f...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
I will, particularly if it is to congratulate those businesses.
Murdo Fraser Con
I am very pleased to congratulate those businesses. As the cabinet secretary is talking about attracting investment, I wonder whether she will come on to tal...
Kate Forbes SNP
Intentionally or otherwise, the member is distorting the Scottish Government’s position. The Scottish Government has a long-standing position of not using pu...
Kate Forbes SNP
Just a minute. A matter of months ago, I announced £2 million of investment in the skills and training required, and we have also invested in defence compani...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
I love a good debate, but I would like to finish my speech, too. I will take this intervention, however.
Liam Kerr Con
I am grateful, and it will be very quick. Does the Government think that the way in which the current rates regime is structured militates against small busi...
Kate Forbes SNP
No, because of the small business bonus scheme, which remains the most generous across the United Kingdom.
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention on that point?
Kate Forbes SNP
I agree with Liam Kerr—and I have discussed this with Daniel Johnson in the past, too—that the rates system often does not take into account the fact that so...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way on that point?
Kate Forbes SNP
Do I have some time in hand?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You will get the time back, Deputy First Minister.
Stephen Kerr Con
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Kate Forbes SNP
The point that I am making just now is that we have great research and development—I think that we would all accept that there is some brilliant research and...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
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