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Meeting of the Parliament 04 June 2025

04 Jun 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Empowering Entrepreneurs and Innovators
Forbes, Kate SNP Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch Watch on SPTV

The point that I am making just now is that we have great research and development—I think that we would all accept that there is some brilliant research and development. The member has raised questions about funding models, about which there is extensive debate at the moment, but we are talking specifically about the fact that a lot of that research and development does not get commercialised. How do we take it from the point of academic research and turn it into a business? That is what Sweden does well. Yes, there is a time and a place for a broader conversation about funding models, but what we are talking about is the fact that, over the past few years, the commercialisation of that research has lagged behind.

The entrepreneurial spirit and enduring legacy of innovation extend far beyond our university campuses. Take John Walker, for example. From humble beginnings on Kilmarnock High Street in the 1800s, he built what would become the globally renowned Johnnie Walker whisky brand, which is now valued at more than $10 billion.

To create the next generation of Johnnie Walkers, we will invest in igniting entrepreneurial dynamism across all our people and communities. First, we relaunched the £700,000 ecosystem fund. Secondly, we will continue to back Scottish EDGE’s outstanding work to identify and support promising new businesses.

Thirdly, entrepreneurship is often seen as the domain of rare individuals with exceptional intelligence and drive, but that is simply not true. Research shows that quality entrepreneurial education and strong networks consistently build the mindset, skill and attitudes needed to succeed. That is why I am pleased to announce that, this year, we will relaunch the competitive entrepreneurial education fund, which will have a focus on embedding project-based entrepreneurial learning in schools across Scotland.

Finally, we are providing £141,000 to support a two-year pilot with the University of Aberdeen to train new computing science teachers, who will be able to equip young people with the skills that are vital for success in high-growth start-ups.

As the effect of our interventions in infrastructure, education and investment starts to yield momentum, our ambition is to establish Scotland as a global hub for start-up founders and investors, with a reputation akin to that presently enjoyed by Sweden and Finland. Techscaler and key policy documents such as the Logan review—or “Pathways”—and the innovation strategy have raised our profile. Indeed, Techscaler has been invited to showcase Scottish start-ups in Singapore, silicon valley, Helsinki, London, China and Japan.

At the start of this afternoon’s debate, in which political points will inevitably be made—and I do recognise a role for constructive challenge—we should take the opportunity to congratulate those who are involved in the Scottish start-up scene on what they have achieved. The businesses that are driving that scene are raising Scotland’s profile and are doing us proud on a global scale.

This September, Scotland has been selected to host the prestigious DICE conference, which will welcome senior executives from more than 100 of the world’s top gaming companies. The world is beginning to perceive Scotland differently. It is an impression that we are keen to reinforce, and I hope to work on a cross-party basis to continue to build on that work.

I move,

That the Parliament supports the Scottish Government’s ambition to establish Scotland as one of Europe’s fastest-growing start-up economies; welcomes the significant progress made towards this goal; congratulates Ana Stewart on her appointment as Scotland’s new Chief Entrepreneur, and welcomes the record investment of over £30 million to accelerate Scotland’s emergence as a leading hub for innovation, entrepreneurship and high-growth businesses.

15:36  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17785, in the name of Kate Forbes, on empowering entrepreneurs and innovators. I invite members who wish ...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
Entrepreneurs and innovators are the catalysts of growth that shape our economy. From the moment that I first entered Government, I have championed that agen...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Made a request to intervene.
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
Yes—although you do not look like Sharon Dowey.
Craig Hoy Con
Do I need to change, Presiding Officer, or can I simply self-declare?
Kate Forbes SNP
I am relaxed as to whether it is Sharon Dowey or Craig Hoy who intervenes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Let us go with Craig Hoy.
Craig Hoy Con
I think that we have corrected the record, but I have slightly lost my train of thought. The minister is talking about young and ambitious entrepreneurs who...
Kate Forbes SNP
Absolutely. As a representative of Scotland’s islands—which I think that Craig Hoy mentioned—I would absolutely recommend that. A number of brilliant start-u...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I agree that we should champion success but, to truly succeed, we also need to acknowledge that there are issues. The Deputy First Minister might quote those...
Kate Forbes SNP
It is precisely because we needed to confront some of the challenges four years ago that we embarked on this journey to support Scottish entrepreneurs. The f...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
I will, particularly if it is to congratulate those businesses.
Murdo Fraser Con
I am very pleased to congratulate those businesses. As the cabinet secretary is talking about attracting investment, I wonder whether she will come on to tal...
Kate Forbes SNP
Intentionally or otherwise, the member is distorting the Scottish Government’s position. The Scottish Government has a long-standing position of not using pu...
Kate Forbes SNP
Just a minute. A matter of months ago, I announced £2 million of investment in the skills and training required, and we have also invested in defence compani...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
I love a good debate, but I would like to finish my speech, too. I will take this intervention, however.
Liam Kerr Con
I am grateful, and it will be very quick. Does the Government think that the way in which the current rates regime is structured militates against small busi...
Kate Forbes SNP
No, because of the small business bonus scheme, which remains the most generous across the United Kingdom.
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention on that point?
Kate Forbes SNP
I agree with Liam Kerr—and I have discussed this with Daniel Johnson in the past, too—that the rates system often does not take into account the fact that so...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way on that point?
Kate Forbes SNP
Do I have some time in hand?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You will get the time back, Deputy First Minister.
Stephen Kerr Con
As ever, the Deputy First Minister talks a really good game. However, when she talks about universities, does she not accept that the current funding model i...
Kate Forbes SNP
The point that I am making just now is that we have great research and development—I think that we would all accept that there is some brilliant research and...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I welcome the fact that we are having another debate on the economy. We now have something of a trend of economy debates, which is a welcome departure from t...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Last night, I was at Daniel Johnson’s sponsored event with the Confederation of British Industry. Many people were talking about the flexible workforce devel...