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Meeting of the Parliament 20 May 2025

20 May 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Radio Teleswitch Service Switch-off

I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing the motion for debate. As we have heard, the closure of the radio teleswitch service on 30 June is fast approaching. I have heard from many constituents who have experienced issues and delays with having meters exchanged. I should declare an interest, as that includes me. It was reported that, at the end of April, 432,000 meters still needed to be replaced in the UK, more than a quarter of which—nearly 135,000—are located in Scotland.

It has been estimated that the rate of replacement is about 6,000 a month. I therefore echo the concern that other members have raised that meters are not being replaced at a rate that will meet the deadline. In fact, at the current rate, it will take six years for the work to be completed.

Many people have had to wait months for an appointment, and for many rural households that are total heating, total control customers, the changeover to a smart meter has been a lot more complex and time consuming than expected, which has added to the delays. I know of constituents whose smart meter installations have failed more than three times due to the wiring of their homes. The length of the process is very worrying, given the number of homes that are still to be connected. I have worked with an elderly vulnerable constituent who lives by herself to chase up her installation but, months in, she still does not have an appointment.

Given that I have also heard from constituents who have experienced poor communication about the RTS switch-off, there is an additional concern that some households might not even be aware that the switch-off is taking place. In fact, a poll by Age Scotland shows that nearly half the people who need their meter to be switched over are still not aware of that. It is simply not good enough. It is of great concern that people who still need to have smart meters installed face the possibility of losing hot water and heating or having their bills skyrocket to unaffordable heights.

Although technological upgrades are necessary and the switch-over will, ultimately, make bills more accurate, we must not let rural communities be left at a disadvantage. Whether we are talking about improvements to broadband or the energy systems in our homes, our rural communities are always the last to benefit from upgrades. I would be interested to hear what conversations the SNP Government has had with the UK Labour Government on the matter, with a view to ensuring that all properties will be upgraded by the deadline and that rural homes will not be left behind.

18:41  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-17484, in the name of Beatrice Wishart, on the radio teleswitch service switch-off. Th...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I am sorry not to join members in the chamber in person this evening. I thank members who have supported the motion and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
As we move to the open debate, I advise the chamber that there is a lot of interest in the subject, and therefore I must ask members to stick to their speaki...
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing this important and urgent debate to the chamber, and I fully support her motion. The RTS switch-off is of great conc...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am grateful to Beatrice Wishart for securing a debate on what is becoming an increasingly serious issue, for many of the reasons that have been mentioned. ...
The Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy (Gillian Martin) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Tim Eagle Con
I think that I have time, so yes.
Gillian Martin SNP
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Tim Eagle Con
I am talking not about what has been done but about the fact that the programme has not been rolled out according to the deadline that the SNP promised. I wa...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I thank Beatrice Wishart for securing this debate on an issue that affects people across Scotland, from Glasgow to the Shetland isles. Figures from Ofgem sh...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing this members’ business debate to the chamber. She has outlined extremely well the problems that will be caused for her ...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I thank Beatrice Wishart for securing this important debate. The urgency with which we need to deal with the issue is growing with each passing day. Schedul...
Emma Harper SNP
Rachael Hamilton has just highlighted the challenges that some really vulnerable people are facing, especially the 97-year-old person in Duns. Does she agree...
Rachael Hamilton Con
That is why it is so important that Beatrice Wishart has brought the debate to the chamber. I hope that it will almost be an awareness campaign for those who...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I, too, thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing this important and urgent debate to the chamber. I speak on behalf of my constituents in the Highlands and Island...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Beatrice Wishart on securing this debate on the motion, to which I was a signatory. Much has been said about smart meters—often about their un...
Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing the motion for debate. As we have heard, the closure of the radio teleswitch service on 30 June is fast approaching. I ...
The Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy (Gillian Martin) SNP
Like other members, I begin by thanking Beatrice Wishart for securing a debate on the hugely important issue of the RTS switch-off. Members will know that e...
Rachael Hamilton Con
An issue that I did not get to in my speech is the fact that some of the remedial works are not being covered. Could the Scottish Government help with the pr...
Gillian Martin SNP
As I said, Ofgem is responsible for the process, and the responsibility to replace the meters lies with the energy companies. We have called for certain prot...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Gillian Martin SNP
Yes, I will.
Christine Grahame SNP
In taking all reasonable steps to ensure that customers are no worse off, should there be a discount on the bill if, to use my example, white metering means ...
Gillian Martin SNP
My reading of suppliers being mandated to “take all reasonable steps to provide a tariff that leaves the consumer ‘no worse off’” is that it involves exact...
Rachael Hamilton Con
When I talked about remedial works, I meant rewiring. That is what I was talking about.
Gillian Martin SNP
Right. Thank you. We have asked for a fund to support consumers who are in that position, and we have called on Ofgem, the UK Government and industry to mak...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, cabinet secretary. That concludes the debate. Meeting closed at 18:50.