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Meeting of the Parliament 08 May 2025

08 May 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Victory in Europe Day (80th Anniversary)
Swinney, John SNP Perthshire North Watch on SPTV

Unreservedly. There is a very strong affinity with the Polish community in the area of Perthshire that I represent—indeed, there is a Polish cemetery in the city of Perth. Of course, in subsequent generations that has led to a very welcoming environment for the Polish community to come to, where, thankfully, they are able to contribute to our schools, local communities, churches and community activities. That is all very welcome, and it is based on the deep roots that Mr Cole-Hamilton has cited.

In the past few days and weeks, I have been mindful of a sequence of events that took place in my family’s life, which rather illustrates the mixed feelings that would have been in evidence on VE day in 1945. I had not really thought about this point until the events of the past few weeks.

On 3 April this year, I attended a memorial event down at Ocean Terminal, where a memorial to my late uncle, Corporal Thomas Hunter, has stood for many years. Here we are today, only 35 days later, marking VE day. That has made me realise that, on 3 April 1945, my mother’s family was devastated by the news of the loss of my uncle, yet, only 35 days later, the streets were full of people jubilantly celebrating the end of the war—quite understandably, of course, because there was an enormous sense of relief.

What has struck me is the level of contrast that there must have been between my grandmother’s and grandfather’s household, where people were nursing unbearable grief—which I saw in later stages of my life, when I became conscious of my family’s experience and understood the gravity of the loss that they felt—and the jubilation outside their front door. I leave that observation with members simply so that they will recognise that, although there was great relief on 8 May 1945, a lot of suffering was still going on in households the length and breadth of the country. We should never forget that contrast, which highlights the sense of loss that many individuals experienced.

Today, the Deputy First Minister has attended, on my behalf, a commemoration event in the city of Glasgow, and the Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, External Affairs and Culture has represented the Government at the national commemorative service at Westminster abbey.

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The First Minister (John Swinney) SNP
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Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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I join Pam Gosal in that point of remembrance. It is significant that that point was made at the VE day 80 commemoration event in the Usher hall in Edinburgh...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thought that the First Minister spoke movingly of his uncle when VE day tributes were paid earlier today. I have been thinking about my mother, who, as a s...
The First Minister SNP
I agree with Mr Kerr’s point. His example of his mother’s experience resonates with that of my mother-in-law, who was also removed from a tenement block that...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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The First Minister SNP
Unreservedly. There is a very strong affinity with the Polish community in the area of Perthshire that I represent—indeed, there is a Polish cemetery in the ...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Will the First Minister take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back, First Minister.
The First Minister SNP
I will happily give way to Mr Brown.
Keith Brown SNP
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Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:01
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Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
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Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
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Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Presiding Officer NPA
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