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Meeting of the Parliament 07 May 2025

07 May 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Programme for Government (Building the Best Future for Scotland)
Fraser, Murdo Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

We have to create the growth first; we have to create the wealth first. That needs to be the first priority. If we do not have the wealth, we cannot share it around.

However, the reality is that growth has been too slow both across the UK and in Scotland. In the latest month for which we have figures, which is February 2025, Scotland’s onshore gross domestic product is estimated to have fallen by 0.2 per cent. Overall, the UK economy grew in the same month by just 0.5 per cent. The output of 11 of 14 sectors of the Scottish economy fell, with the services sector shrinking overall by 0.6 per cent. Too many people of working age are not working, and we have a higher percentage of people who are economically inactive compared with the UK as a whole.

That poor economic output is reflected in collapsing levels of business confidence. Just last month, Scottish Chambers of Commerce published its quarterly economic indicator in conjunction with the Fraser of Allander Institute. It shows business confidence evaporating across key sectors, with sharp drops recorded for tourism, manufacturing and construction compared with the same period last year. Taxation is now the number 1 concern for Scottish businesses, overtaking inflation, and rising labour and energy costs continue to be major factors. Overall, it is a very worrying picture.

Kicking in just at the beginning of last month was the UK Labour Government’s increase in employer national insurance contributions, which is literally a tax on jobs.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17437, in the name of Kate Forbes, on the programme for government—building the best future for Scotland....
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
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Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
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Kate Forbes SNP
I express my huge sympathy for those who face losing their job. As Kevin Stewart said, we are faced with the loss of several hundred onshore jobs, and we are...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Over the past two years, Scotland has had the lowest wage growth of any region or nation in the United Kingdom. The Deputy First Minister talks about increas...
Kate Forbes SNP
I am intrigued as to which figures Paul O’Kane is using, because, in March, Scotland’s claimant count—the unemployment rate—was 3.7 per cent, which was lower...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
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Kate Forbes SNP
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Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the Deputy First Minister therefore share my concern that a really successful programme for supporting disabled people into employment in Glasgow throug...
Kate Forbes SNP
The example that the member has cited is precisely the kind of opportunity that we are supporting and are keen to continue to support. The employability supp...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Will the Deputy First Minister take another intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
A really brief one.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
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Kate Forbes SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is no time in hand, so members will be required to stick to their speaking allocations. I call Murdo Fraser to speak to and move...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I start by reminding members of my entry in the register of members’ interests in relation to the income that I derive from property rental and my connection...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Ind
Will the member give way?
Murdo Fraser Con
I will in a second. We should all affirm that as a set of outcomes. At least, I hope that we would all affirm that—perhaps Mr Mason is about to disappoint me.
John Mason Ind
The member says that growth reduces poverty. Would he accept that that is not automatic and that we have to take action to move the wealth around?
Murdo Fraser Con
We have to create the growth first; we have to create the wealth first. That needs to be the first priority. If we do not have the wealth, we cannot share it...
Kate Forbes SNP
I do not wish to pre-empt what the member will say, but does he agree that one of the primary problems with the hike in national insurance contributions is t...
Murdo Fraser Con
I do not disagree at all with that point from the Deputy First Minister. If Labour had signalled in advance of the election what it was going to do, whether ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
I ask the cabinet secretary to let me make this point. I will then give way. That means that, at a time when we have a housing emergency, which even the Sco...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Earlier, Murdo Fraser called my Scottish Green colleagues “anti-growth”, which is a highly pejorative term. Will he comment on members of the Conservative Pa...
Murdo Fraser Con
Rent controls are an SNP Government policy; they are not supported by this party. We will not support the housing bill if rent controls are part of it. I giv...
John Mason Ind
Will the member give way?
Murdo Fraser Con
I am running out of time, so I ask my colleague to forgive me. The Scottish Government has had 18 years to do that. Finally, it is waking up to the fact tha...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Kate Forbes SNP
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