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Meeting of the Parliament 30 April 2025

30 Apr 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Fishing Industry
Gougeon, Mairi SNP Angus North and Mearns Watch on SPTV

Unfortunately, the interministerial group meetings at which we would have hoped to discuss these issues over the past couple of months were cancelled at the last minute by my counterpart ministers in the UK Government. However, I hope to have an opportunity to catch up with the UK Government next week, and I will use that opportunity to discuss that point.

We need an agreement that delivers improvements for our fishing communities. We also need the UK Government to provide Scotland with a fair share of funding for our marine economy and coastal communities. The UK Government has imposed a short-term, Barnettised settlement, which is the complete opposite of what was called for by devolved Governments across the UK. Baselining the marine funding allocation at the current 2014 figure of £14 million simply does not reflect the reality of funding requirements.

If we compare that to our neighbours in the EU, we see that Denmark, for example, which has a population similar to Scotland’s but has a smaller sea area and marine sector, will receive the equivalent of £25 million through the EU’s current European maritime, fisheries and aquaculture fund. The post-Brexit power grab by the UK Government needs to be rectified as a matter of urgency.

The fact remains that we face a range of challenges arising from exiting the EU. There are permanent and on-going barriers to trade that are significantly impairing the competitiveness of our seafood sector. Although the trade and co-operation agreement avoided the imposition of tariffs, trade in seafood products with the EU is now subject to costly certification and inspection requirements. There is also the on-going threat of retaliatory tariffs on exports if the UK Government fails to meet relevant TCA obligations.

Securing an uplift in the TCA shares of fishing quotas is important and should always be based on zonal attachment—that is, where the fish mostly are. Of equal importance is the sustainable management of those shared and jointly managed stocks for the long-term future.

I remind members that we are debating a motion from a party that delivered a deeply damaging deal—one that was not in the Scottish national interest. In the words of one former MP,

“the UK Government has delivered far less than I hoped or expected ... It would be easier to get someone to drink a pint of cold sick than to try to sell this as a success.”

The UK Government has a lot of work to do if it wants to meaningfully address the inadequacies of the TCA. We call on it to engage with the Scottish Government as a matter of urgency, so that we can work with it to address these matters and deliver for Scotland’s fishing industry.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-17360, in the name of Tim Eagle, on protecting Scotland’s fishing industry. I invite members who wish to ...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
When I was representing my local fishing community as a councillor, I made a promise that, if I ever became an MSP, I would make sure to raise the subject of...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
It is absolutely crass to suggest that fishing will be negotiated for national security. Surely, the member recognises that.
Tim Eagle Con
I did not say that.
Rhoda Grant Lab
That is the premise of your motion. I ask you to recant and actually have a debate about fishing.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair, please.
Tim Eagle Con
The member might need to read my motion. It does not mention defence, and I am not going to mention defence in my speech—others may, but I am not going to. I...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
Perhaps the member would like to read our paper on the marine economy and what that would look like in an independent Scotland, which was published as part o...
Tim Eagle Con
I will read rhetoric from the SNP less and listen more to my constituents who want out of the common fisheries policy. Labour members will perhaps challenge...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
I welcome Tim Eagle’s recognition that the TCA did not deliver for the fishing sector. Perhaps the Scottish Tories should have opened the debate by offering ...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I appreciate the cabinet secretary’s remarks. Has the Scottish Government reached out to the UK Labour Government to ask for a meeting to discuss Labour’s im...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Unfortunately, the interministerial group meetings at which we would have hoped to discuss these issues over the past couple of months were cancelled at the ...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. The point that the cabinet secretary made was—I know the word that I am not allowed to use—deliberately misleading an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You are not allowed to use that terminology either, Mr Ross.
Douglas Ross Con
I cannot use the words “lying” or “deliberately misleading”?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
No, you cannot.
Douglas Ross Con
What words can I use?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
That is not a point of order, Mr Ross.
Douglas Ross Con
The cabinet secretary has—Interruption. I said “deliberately misleading”, but I am not allowed to use that term either. The cabinet secretary deliberately us...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You have made your point, Mr Ross. That is not a point of order—it is perhaps a debating point. I require the cabinet secretary to move her amendment.
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I move amendment S6M-17370.3, to leave out from first “with the EU” to second “with the EU” and insert: “on fishing with the EU that enhances access for EU ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Rhoda Grant to speak to and move amendment S6M-17360.1. 16:44
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
The Conservatives are so devoid of ideas that they are reduced to a point whereby they must feed discord on everything that they touch. The United Kingdom Go...
Tim Eagle Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Rhoda Grant Lab
I will take a very quick intervention.
Tim Eagle Con
Does the member agree that it is best to have annual negotiations, as was expected at the end of the TCA, rather than multi-annual negotiations, which is bei...
Rhoda Grant Lab
There is no deal. We will see what comes out, and we will have discussions about that when it happens. How the previous UK Conservative Government handled t...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Rhoda Grant Lab
I do not have time to take another intervention. The Scottish Conservative motion seeks to suggest that we need no change to the current system that its Gov...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.