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Meeting of the Parliament 20 March 2025 [Draft]

20 Mar 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Salmon Farming
Gougeon, Mairi SNP Angus North and Mearns Watch on SPTV

Finlay Carson is absolutely right about the transparency of the information that is provided. More information is provided for salmon farming than for any other sector. However, I recognise that there are difficulties in translating how some of that data can be used and in how it is communicated.

I make it clear that I would not hesitate to take action or introduce regulation, if there were a problem with getting that information in the first place. However, there are no issues there. It brings me back to the point that any regulation that we bring forward has to be proportionate, and that is why, as I said to the committee, I do not intend to introduce any regulations in that regard. My response to the committee carefully prioritises what I believe is achievable not only for Government but, importantly, for the range of partners that we work with. We need to be cognisant of the cumulative impact of our work programmes on all stakeholders.

Another factor that impacts on delivery and which affects Government in its entirety is the on-going challenge of ensuring that we manage effectively within our means. That means prioritising how and when we take work forward. I want to be open and transparent about the balance that Government is trying to strike to ensure that we are delivering on the most important issues, and it means that, while we work within resource constraints, we have to continue to make careful and difficult prioritisation decisions.

Another key point of the committee’s considerations that I want to address—and which the convener, Finlay Carson, has touched on—is the reference to and talk of moratoriums on either new sites or expansion at existing sites. Despite the finding from the previous committee’s work that there was “insufficient evidence to support” a moratorium on future development, and despite the fact that significant progress has been made since those inquiries, I am disappointed that the committee has signalled that it would like to revisit the issue in a year’s time. I welcome that the committee has outlined that it would not support a moratorium at this time—albeit that that position was not, I recognise, supported by all members—but there should be no question about whether we want salmon farming in Scotland. We do.

Any move towards some sort of moratorium would deprive Scotland of the benefits of salmon farming for our economy and our communities, without adequate justification that the potential environmental harms were not being managed appropriately. A moratorium could stifle the very investment in science and innovation that will ultimately support fish health and environmental and productivity goals.

We are committed to ensuring that Scotland is a good place to do business, with effective but proportionate regulation that protects our environment now and in the future. We take matters of fish health and welfare and the protection of our environment seriously, and I hope that my response to the committee is clear on those issues and provides an insight into what work is being prioritised and when, in the context of our work plan.

What I hope that I have also managed to convey in my response is openness and transparency about the Government’s intentions, and that we are being absolutely clear about what work we intend to deliver, when we will deliver it and why. Having set that out and having carefully considered our response to the committee’s findings, I hope that colleagues across the chamber can see that we have committed to a number of actions across all areas and that we take the committee’s time, deliberations and recommendations seriously.

We have already made significant progress on key areas, including reducing environmental impact, improving fish health and streamlining planning and consenting. Beyond that progress, I have, in my response to the committee, committed to a range of further actions. Although I do not have time to cover all of them this afternoon, I want to set out some of the priorities that we are taking forward.

We will explore with partners how the existing data collections that we have touched on today can be better presented and how accessibility can be enhanced, including through improvements to the Scotland’s Aquaculture website. We are working to analyse mortality data, exploring thresholds for persistent high mortality and whether fish farms with persistent high mortality actually exist. Based on the evidence that the committee received, we will be undertaking an analysis of options, including statutory and other alternatives, to understand how improved welfare standards can best be supported.

The detail of those commitments is broad and is set out in our written response to the committee, but I hope that what I have set out briefly today shows that we are listening, we are acting and we are continuing to make progress.

In drawing to a close, I thank committee members again for their in-depth consideration of the matters. I look forward to keeping the committee updated as we make further progress across the important areas to ensure that we continue to support the sector’s development, to operate within environmental limits and to deliver the range of social and economic benefits that we know that it brings.

15:21  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-16852, in the name of Finlay Carson, on behalf of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, on salmon farm...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee and to speak to the findings of our follow-up inquiry into salmon farmin...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
Does the member recognise, acknowledge and welcome the fact that, since 2018—seven years ago—the sector as a whole has invested a staggering £1,000 million i...
Finlay Carson Con
Absolutely. We recognise that the industry has gone some way in innovating and looking at how it can tackle some of the challenges. Of most concern to the co...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Finlay Carson makes an important point about the fact that the committee wants to see progress within one year, but can he tell us exactly what the committee...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Please answer and conclude, convener.
Finlay Carson Con
We take those points on board. It is very important that, before the 12 months are up, the committee has the opportunity to see whether there has been satisf...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. Before I call the cabinet secretary, members might wish to be aware that we do have a little time in hand this afternoon. 15:10
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
First, I am grateful to the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee for its thorough exploration of the issues that salmon farming faces and for members’ conside...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
It has been more than a year since the Long Loch Salmon semi-closed containment project was called in for a decision by the Scottish Government. We are talki...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Unfortunately, I am not in a position to provide Beatrice Wishart with an update on that. As I hope that she can appreciate, I am not the minister responsibl...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I am happy to take an intervention.
Fergus Ewing SNP
I am very grateful to the cabinet secretary for giving way. Does the cabinet secretary agree that the Griggs report’s main recommendation of having a lead in...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
First, I appreciate the work that Professor Griggs undertook and his recommendations. We are taking forward work through the consenting task group to look sp...
Finlay Carson Con
I appreciate the cabinet secretary giving way to me, because I know that she is not really getting into her flow with all of these interventions. However, w...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Finlay Carson is absolutely right about the transparency of the information that is provided. More information is provided for salmon farming than for any ot...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am delighted to be able to open this debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. Before I go any further, I remind Parliament of my entry in the regist...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Made a request to intervene.
Edward Mountain Con
I will give way to my colleague Jamie Greene, who I think was on that committee.
Jamie Greene Con
I was keen to listen to today’s debate, and I indeed sat alongside the member during the deliberations on that report all those years ago. I am still surpris...
Edward Mountain Con
I share the member’s disappointment. If I had known where we would be today, I would have joined those committee members who called for a moratorium in 2018...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I appreciate what members have said so far today about the fish mortalities and I do not think that anybody is willing to accept the current level of mortali...
Edward Mountain Con
Of course I accept that fact—as a farmer, I am well aware of it. Let me give an example: on the farm, sometimes we get blackleg. If that happens, it will kil...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Will the member take another intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
I will take one more if I have time.
Mairi Gougeon SNP
In the evidence that the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee heard, there was one example of a specific mortality event that happened because of micro jellyf...
Edward Mountain Con
I accept that there need to be adaptable controls in particular areas. The Kishorn A, B and C sites continually have a high mortality rate, which calls into ...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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Mairi Gougeon SNP
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