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Meeting of the Parliament 05 February 2025

05 Feb 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Addressing Child Poverty through Education
Gilruth, Jenny SNP Mid Fife and Glenrothes Watch on SPTV

I outlined that we will be sharing the learning in spring, so we would seek to publish the data at that time. I invite the member, and members across the chamber, to join me on one of the school visits that my officials and I have planned across the country to speak to pupils, staff and those who work in the third sector about the funding’s impact, which has transformed the type of spend that happens in our schools.

PEF is now firmly embedded in our schools and, as I have previously said in committee, my strongly held view is that it should remain beyond this parliamentary session as a catalyst for improvement in areas in which it is needed most. It remains the case that the purpose of this extra funding is to drive educational improvement. The achievement of curriculum for excellence levels—also known as ACEL—data from December shows that our schools have the highest levels of literacy on record and the smallest poverty-related attainment gap to date. That assures me that pupils are benefiting from the support of their teachers and other staff throughout their primary and early secondary education.

Since 2009-10, under this Government, the overall poverty-related attainment gap for young people who are leaving school and going on to a positive destination has reduced by 60 per cent, which is welcome news. However, let me be clear that we have much more to do to close the gap. We have had a global pandemic and a cost of living crisis, but we remain absolutely committed to closing the poverty-related attainment gap, and we continue to make progress.

It is worth reflecting that up to 3,000 additional staff all over the country are now employed thanks to direct investment from the Scottish attainment challenge programme. As the headteacher at Fair Isle primary pointed out to me this morning, those extra staff are making a significant difference in our schools.

Presiding Officer, I am conscious of the time. The Government’s budget, which passed stage 1 yesterday, prioritises further investment in Scotland’s children. For example, the budget provides for an extra £37 million to deliver on the expansion of free school meals for those in receipt of the Scottish child payment in primaries 6 and 7. All pupils in primaries 1 to 5, all children in special schools and eligible pupils in primary 6 up to secondary 6 already benefit from free school meals, which save families £400 per child per year on average. We are also the only part of the United Kingdom to provide extra support to local authorities during the school holidays, which is worth just over £21 million and is a unique investment that we will seek to continue to support.

I welcome our Scottish Green colleagues’ support for our further expansion of free school meals via an additional test of change programme, which is supported by £3 million of investment, to those in receipt of the Scottish child payment in S1 to S3. We are also investing £3 million to establish a bright start breakfast fund, which children’s charities have welcomed.

I am keen to assure my Green colleagues that we will continue to work with them on school uniform guidance, which we previously worked with them on. I know that the guidance is having an impact in our schools and helping to drive down costs that are associated with school uniform. I commit to working further with our Scottish Green partner colleagues, and in particular Ross Greer, on the statutory guidance and how it is being developed with our schools.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-16330, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on addressing child poverty through education. 15:18
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
The number 1 priority for the Government is the eradication of child poverty. It is an aspiration that I would hope that every MSP shares, and it is why the ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
We have reached a 20-year high for the number of children who are in temporary accommodation. What will the cabinet secretary say to those children about the...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
The member raises an important point about temporary accommodation. I know that the matter is being taken forward by the Minister for Housing and the Cabinet...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for taking an intervention. Does she know when the Scottish Government will be in a position to publish the analysis o...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I outlined that we will be sharing the learning in spring, so we would seek to publish the data at that time. I invite the member, and members across the cha...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Is the cabinet secretary able to say whether such work will include looking at the school uniform grant rising in line with inflation?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
My understanding is that we have already looked at increasing the school clothing grant in line with inflation. I am happy to write to Monica Lennon to confi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Miles Briggs to speak to and move amendment S6M-16330.4. 15:30
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I welcome this debate, which is being held in Government time, and I will take the opportunity to do something that is unusual when debating education—I can ...
Martin Whitfield Lab
I am grateful to Miles Briggs for taking my intervention. I do not disagree in any way, shape or form with his very eloquent description of the challenges th...
Miles Briggs Con
I absolutely agree. The issue transcends the debate and affects the whole pupil population. That is why, for some time and especially following the pandemic,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Pam Duncan-Glancy to speak to and move amendment S6M-16330.3. 15:37
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. As I have said in the Parliament before, education is a great leveller and can determine a pers...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I am grateful to the Government for bringing this debate to the chamber. It would be wrong to suggest that we can end child poverty through education. We can...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The member makes a really good case for the roles that education can and cannot provide. Does he welcome the fact that 200,000 Scots will get a pay rise as a...
Ross Greer Green
I absolutely do welcome the rise in the minimum wage. I would welcome it far more if the UK Government would commit to keeping the national minimum wage at l...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I will start where Ross Greer finished off. He talked about the roles of schools and the social worker role that they have in addition to the role of educati...
Martin Whitfield Lab
Is it not the case that, at the moment, schools seem to be dealing with the very bottom layers of the hierarchy of needs—housing, food and safety—rather than...
Willie Rennie LD
Yes, I agree. That is not to say that the social role that the schools provide is not important, because it is incredibly important and schools do it well. T...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open debate. I advise members that we have a bit of time in hand, should members wish to take interventions. I call Clare Haughey, who wil...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
The First Minister declared that tackling child poverty is the national mission of this Scottish parliamentary session. Our education system, as a universal ...
Martin Whitfield Lab
The advice that we received from Save the Children, which Clare Haughey referenced, talks about the importance of a child’s first two years, but what support...
Clare Haughey SNP
I am not sure whether Martin Whitfield is aware of my background, but I spent about 15 years working in perinatal mental health before I came to the Parliame...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I agree with the cabinet secretary and Mr Rennie that education is a vital tool in tackling poverty. Giving our young people the best education possible give...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I remind Mr Balfour that the OECD described the 2022 version of the PISA statistics as the “pandemic edition” when it was published. Does he recognise that t...
Jeremy Balfour Con
I accept it, but does the cabinet secretary accept that the OECD also tells us that the issues were there before Covid? Those underlying issues were there be...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
The motion notes the report from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, which predicts that child poverty rates in Scotland will decline by 2029 while rates in the ...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Presiding Officer, “Growing up in one of Scotland’s most deprived communities is likely to put a person at the bottom of the class and, in too many instance...
Collette Stevenson (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP
We know that children and young people do not exist in isolation. They are directly and indirectly affected by their parents or carers and by economic stabil...