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Meeting of the Parliament 22 January 2025

22 Jan 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Electricity Infrastructure Consenting
Allan, Dr Alasdair SNP Na h-Eileanan an Iar Watch on SPTV

The point is that Scottish ministers determine applications to construct or install electricity infrastructure under the Electricity Act 1989. We do not choose, for instance, the routes of strategic power lines across the country.

In England and Wales, relevant legislation has long since been updated to make the consenting process not only more efficient but, I believe, fairer. As far as I am aware, that is not a reform that the Conservatives objected to. Indeed, our purpose in Scotland is to learn from reform in England, which may well result in similar changes to those that have been in place in England and Wales for many years.

At present in Scotland, it can take up to four years to process an application to determination. That is not in the interests of communities or the economy. The Scottish Government has long called for the relevant powers to be given to Scottish ministers. However, in October 2024, the UK Government announced proposals to reform the legislation at Westminster, launching a consultation that concluded at the end of November. The core aim is to make our determination process more efficient—not to make it easier, as the Conservatives seem to suggest—for projects to get consent. Indeed, one of the central proposals is to modernise the system to allow community voices to be heard, including at an earlier stage.

Conservative members might be interested to know that those proposals did not simply materialise in the past few months. The UK Government committed to review consenting in Scotland in November 2023. Conservative members have now forgotten the next crucial bit, which is that that was when the Conservatives were in power in the UK. Indeed, they were taking forward those plans before the general election was called, so it is rather surprising to hear them describe the plans in such terms as they have used today.

Ensuring that community voices are heard in the process and in the right way is central to the reforms. Under the current system, Scotland is the only part of Great Britain where developers do not have to consult local communities before submitting their plans. We want to change that by ensuring that the procedure begins with communities having the opportunity to express their views so that they can be considered from the outset. The reforms would make pre-application consultation statutory for the first time—

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-16171, in the name of Douglas Lumsden, on ensuring that communities are at the heart of the electricity c...
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Acting Minister for Climate Action (Alasdair Allan) SNP
The member knows full well that ministers cannot meet community groups during a live planning application.
Douglas Lumsden Con
Let us have a look at the ministerial code. It says that “meeting the developer or objectors to discuss the proposal, but not meeting all parties with an in...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Douglas Lumsden talks about standing up for communities such as my community in the Borders. Communities are beset with hundreds of applications for renewabl...
Douglas Lumsden Con
Absolutely. We are currently facing plans for hundreds of miles of new pylons right across Scotland, affecting the Highlands, the Borders and Aberdeenshire,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Alasdair Allan to speak to and move amendment S6M-16171.3. 16:08
The Acting Minister for Climate Action (Alasdair Allan) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to debate the UK and Scottish Governments’ jointly proposed reforms to the consenting process. It is extremely important that every...
Douglas Lumsden Con
Will the minister give way?
Alasdair Allan SNP
I would be interested to know whether the member can gainsay that, but yes.
Douglas Lumsden Con
The minister is right—just like nuclear power is reserved, but the Scottish Government can block it by using the planning laws that it controls. Surely, in t...
Alasdair Allan SNP
I was not aware of Douglas Lumsden’s proposal that communities in Scotland should be in a position to block nuclear power stations. Scottish ministers—Interr...
Douglas Lumsden Con
That is not the point.
Alasdair Allan SNP
The point is that Scottish ministers determine applications to construct or install electricity infrastructure under the Electricity Act 1989. We do not choo...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Made a request to intervene.
Rachael Hamilton Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Alasdair Allan SNP
Yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Is the minister giving way to Rachael Hamilton?
Alasdair Allan SNP
Yes.
Rachael Hamilton Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you have one minute left.
Alasdair Allan SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you need to conclude. Please move your amendment.
Alasdair Allan SNP
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Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
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Sarah Boyack Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You need to conclude.
Sarah Boyack Lab
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