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Meeting of the Parliament 16 January 2025

16 Jan 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Health and Social Care (Rural Scotland)
Eagle, Tim Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I remind members that my wife is a general practitioner partner in a practice in Buckie and that I previously served for five years as a councillor in Moray.

When I first came to the Parliament, nearly a year ago now, the one thing that I really wanted to address was rural depopulation, and I focused on that issue in my first members’ business debate. In this debate, I want to focus on arguably one of the most fundamental issues that impacts rural depopulation: access to healthcare.

Following the debate on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee’s inquiry into remote and rural healthcare, I raised some of the pressures that rural communities face, but I wanted more debate on such a big topic and to give other members an opportunity to highlight their local issues and stories. I am grateful to everybody in the chamber today.

I will not lie: there is an element of politics in this, as I fundamentally do not believe that the Scottish National Party Government has served residents of rural Scotland well. That is not just my view; I have heard too many stories of appalling failures to deliver healthcare from the people I represent—a lady who slipped and fell having to lie on her back for eight hours while waiting for a 20-minute ambulance journey; a man having a heart attack sitting outside a local district general hospital; the fact that it takes five, six or seven years to reinstate maternity services; and cancer diagnoses taking longer in rural areas than in urban areas. Those are appalling failures, but, as I know my colleagues will show, that is what is going on.

I think that I can split the issue into two areas. First, there are the macro problems: the big issues that fundamentally lead to poor health outcomes in rural areas—the topics that are discussed around the dinner table and are much discussed in this chamber, such as rural transport, connectivity, roads, local provision of services, housing and employment. Then, there are the smaller issues: the niche technical issues around rural healthcare delivery.

I asked a range of doctors across the north-east and the Highlands to tell me in their words what the issues are. They said that smaller teams are less resilient, so a small reduction in staffing has a bigger impact, whether temporarily or in the long term. They noted that there is less third sector community support than there was before, and they spoke of significant recruitment challenges.

One GP said that the role of a GP has fundamentally changed over the years, with most GPs now working part time, partly due to the workload and partly for a better work-life balance. A higher headcount is therefore required, which, in turn, is harder to deliver in rural areas. GPs need a realistic funding model that can sustain smaller establishments. The current system does not work.

Another GP spoke about the lack of any real push on remote and rural training programmes and said that a specialism in rurality should be encouraged in early work at medical schools. One doctor said that, due to their sheer size, larger hospitals tend to have a responsive and dynamic learning environment—something that is not easily delivered in smaller hospitals. There is also a lack of specialist trainees rotating through smaller rural hospitals to provide support to consultants and doctors in their foundation years. Another doctor pointed out that, when a long-term generalist who is amazing in their field is expected to retire in a few years’ time, there should be a mechanism by which another doctor can be brought in earlier to learn their core skills.

I am sure that the cabinet secretary is aware that, at present, maternity and orthopaedic services—and even basic screenings—are not being delivered in some areas. In my region, there are serious staff shortages in Elgin, Thurso, Campbeltown, Stornoway and Uist—I could continue. There are also recruitment challenges in general practice, as we saw with the first group of graduates from the Scottish graduate entry medicine programme. Of the 52 students who graduated, two have taken up posts in my region and eight others have taken up other rural posts.

If I had longer to speak, I could talk about social care, community nursing, mental health support, cancer diagnosis, vaccines and immunisations. We have unique challenges in rural Scotland, but we should never feel that we are being treated as second-class citizens.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-14408, in the name of Tim Eagle, on improving access to health and social care in rural...
Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members that my wife is a general practitioner partner in a practice in Buckie and that I previously served for five years as a councillor in Moray....
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
In the spirit of commending workers in rural areas, I note that one advantage of smaller teams is that they are able to adapt, innovate and trial things more...
Tim Eagle Con
I agree. I do not have time to go into this in my speech, but I would argue that some of the centralisation in relation to community treatment and care nurse...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Before we move to the open debate, I advise members that we are heavily oversubscribed for this debate. It is inevitable that we will have to extend it by ha...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
I thank Tim Eagle for, as he said, giving us all the opportunity to raise important matters. I wish to focus, as I have intimated to the cabinet secretary, o...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Fergus Ewing SNP
Yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Be very brief, cabinet secretary.
Neil Gray SNP
I have met Fergus Ewing and those GPs’ colleagues, whose advice I am very grateful for. I hope that he will accept that I have also provided clear guidance a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Fergus Ewing SNP
I appreciate that the cabinet secretary’s intentions are entirely honourable and good. I entirely accept that. However, as a former minister, I gently say to...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We need to move on. I call Finlay Carson. You have up to four minutes. 17:15
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I congratulate Tim Eagle on bringing this crucial topic to the chamber. Living in rural Scotland remains a massive challenge and it is certainly not getting...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Finlay Carson Con
In nobody’s mind is 90 miles “close to home”.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Finlay Carson Con
Once again, I urge the cabinet secretary to consider an urgent review of the matter.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Neither of the last two speeches has been within four minutes. We will need to do better, otherwise members who want to speak in the debate will be deprived ...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I congratulate Tim Eagle not just on securing tonight’s debate but on the tour de force speech that he gave on issues affecting his constituents—our constitu...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Tim Eagle for securing the debate. Access to health and social care in the Highlands and Islands is poor, which is borne out by the Scottish H...
Neil Gray SNP
On Rhoda Grant’s point about social care, the progress that we are seeking to make in relation to a national care service is about enshrining a human rights-...
Rhoda Grant Lab
I agree that a human rights-based approach to budgeting must be taken at all levels to meet people’s human rights. That was clear from the Scottish Human Rig...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
As other members have done, I thank Tim Eagle for bringing the debate to the chamber. The number of speakers and the pressure that is being brought to bear h...
Neil Gray SNP
I hope that the member will recognise that, along with the constituency member, Kate Forbes, I met residents and family members at Moss Park and that interve...
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
Saved for how long? That is the problem. What will the loss of care provision mean for the Belford hospital, which is itself in need of replacement? I joine...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I am grateful to my colleague Tim Eagle for bringing forward this debate on rural healthcare. At 5 past 4 this afternoon, just over an hour ago, I received ...
Neil Gray SNP
Will the member write to me with the details of that case? We are investing in making sure that we can get through the waiting lists and are using the nation...
Rachael Hamilton Con
I am very grateful to Neil Gray for that response and will certainly write to him. I have also written to him in the past couple of days to invite him to com...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I thank Tim Eagle for raising this important topic in the chamber. In addition to the list of facilities that need replacement that is included in the motion...