Committee
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 10 December 2024
10 Dec 2024 · S6 · Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Item of business
Subordinate Legislation
Burial and Cremation (Inspection) (Scotland) Regulations 2025 [Draft]
Thank you. I recognise what you are talking about in your question. I used to manage a museum that was located in a former church surrounded by gravestones and I remember the distress caused for some people when local authorities went there to ensure that the gravestones and memorials were safe. That absolutely comes under not just the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974, but the Occupiers’ Liability (Scotland) Act 1960, which ensure that employees of local authorities are given the correct protections when they are at work. The guidelines in the regulations tie into the best practice that is already happening. I recognise that some local authorities might have concerns, but additional guidance was brought in in 2019 after the tragic loss of a young boy in Glasgow. Work was done across the board to bring in local authorities and ensure that they recognised the importance of that work. Local authorities should have an established memorial safety inspection programme, and making safe should be part of their regular work anyway. I believe that what we are asking for is proportionate. I also believe that all the appropriate people and parties have been consulted and informed about the change.
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The Convener
SNP
The next item on our agenda is consideration of two affirmative instruments. The purpose of the burial management regulations is to make provision for the ma...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto)
SNP
Thank you, convener. I am delighted to join you today to discuss these regulations. The death of a loved one can be one of the most painful experiences that...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you very much, minister, for that opening statement. Committee members have some questions, and we will start with Elena Whitham.
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
SNP
I bring members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a former councillor in East Ayrshire Council. The committee has received the...
Jenni Minto
SNP
Thank you. I recognise what you are talking about in your question. I used to manage a museum that was located in a former church surrounded by gravestones a...
Elena Whitham
SNP
I will briefly explore the requirement to “make safe” versus “repair”. Some local authorities were questioning what that actually means. Will further guidanc...
Jenni Minto
SNP
Absolutely. That reflects my experience with regard to the graveyard that was around the museum that I worked in. It is clear that South Ayrshire Council di...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
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Jenni Minto
SNP
Emma Harper raises an important question about methods of cremation and burial and the decisions that people are looking to take in that regard. Wicker caske...
Emma Harper
SNP
The funeral directors who were consulted as part of the development of the regulations will be well aware of what they are being asked for in relation to peo...
Jenni Minto
SNP
Yes. A key part of the work that the Scottish Government has been doing is that it has been working directly with funeral directors to ensure that they have ...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
I thank the minister for her comments. I want to ask about the burial management plans that are proposed in the regulations. Recently, there has been covera...
Jenni Minto
SNP
Paul Sweeney raises some really interesting points. I was completely shocked when I saw the pictures of the gravestones in Glasgow with the stickers on them....
Emma Harper
SNP
I have a wee supplementary question about historical graveyards. I have a colleague who has 15 family members in an old graveyard in Moniaive. She learned ab...
Jenni Minto
SNP
We are clear in the regulations that, if a local authority is looking at a specific graveyard, it needs to publicise that as best it can, whether that is thr...
The Convener
SNP
We move on to agenda item 3, which is the formal debate on the regulations on which we have just taken evidence. I remind the committee that officials may no...
Jenni Minto
SNP
Thank you, convener. I will simply move the motions and propose that the committee recommends that the regulations be approved. Motions moved, That the Hea...