Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
14
Parties on record
2,096,198
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Clear
Showing 0 of 2,096,198 contributions in session S6, 11 May 2026 – 10 Jun 2026. Latest 30 days: 3,026. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 10 Jun 2026.

No contributions match those filters.

← Back to list
Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 11 December 2024

11 Dec 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Changing Places Toilets (Funding)
Kerr, Stephen Con Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

I start by saying to Stuart McMillan, who referenced free prescriptions, that 96 per cent of all prescriptions in England are free, so it is likely that all the people he was talking about are in receipt of free prescriptions. That is a very important point in terms of verification and fact checking.

I thank Jeremy Balfour for bringing the motion to the chamber, and I pay tribute to him for his campaigning work on behalf of not just people who need changing places toilets but, more widely, the disabled community in Scotland. He is a real champion—a terrier—for that group, and he has rightly raised issues in the chamber tonight that should be treated with great soberness by the minister.

However, I am really confused about the intervention that the minister made on Jeremy Balfour, because she seemed to indicate that there is money but would not say how much there is. I feel as though we might have wasted our time and breath on all these speeches, because she might be about to announce that there is £10 million in this year’s budget. If so, I wish that she had said that, so that we could have spent our time congratulating the Government on finally fulfilling the commitment that was made so long ago. However, at this point in time, we do not know whether that is the case, and we are left waiting to hear her speech. Accordingly—you will be pleased to hear, Presiding Officer—I will wrap up my speech pretty rapidly, because we want to hear what the Government is going to say. I hope that the minister will not do what she has done tonight—almost teasing us—again. Alexander Stewart said that the Government has been leading us down the garden path on this issue for a number of financial years, and I would not like to think that the minister has done that tonight.

Jeremy Balfour talked of his proudest moment as a parliamentarian. One of my humblest moments during my time as a parliamentarian, which occurred early in my experience as an elected member, was when Jamie Muir and his team at Blair Drummond safari park asked me to be present for the official opening of their changing places toilet. Also present at that event were people whom PAMIS had brought along: people with various needs that meant that changing places toilets were genuinely transformative facilities. I can honestly say, looking back at all the things that I have done as an elected member of the House of Commons and the Scottish Parliament, that I do not think that I will ever forget the faces of the people at that opening and the joy that they felt at being able to visit the safari park and not suffer the indignity of having to find a relatively clean space on the floor where a member of their family could look after them in an intimate way. I know that a number of members here today will have seen people experiencing the joy that people feel when they are able to visit somewhere without suffering that indignity.

We are talking about the sense of dignity and the sense of independence that changing places toilets create. I think of two quotes in particular when I think of those two aspects. The first is about dignity:

“Using a changing places toilet means I don’t have to lie on the floor in a public toilet. It makes me feel valued and respected. It’s the difference between staying at home and being able to go out and enjoy life.”

The second quote concerns the sense of independence and self-reliance:

“It’s the only reason we can go on holiday or visit certain places. Without changing places it just wouldn’t be possible. Having access to these facilities means fewer compromises and more opportunities for spontaneity. When I know there’s a changing places toilet nearby, I don’t have to plan every outing so carefully. It gives us freedom.”

I salute PAMIS for its 32 years of successful campaigning, and I salute my friend Jeremy Balfour for his campaigning.

I will now sit down and hear the minister tell us what she should have said when she intervened on Jeremy Balfour earlier, which is that there is money in the budget this year for changing places toilets.

17:59  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-14427, in the name of Jeremy Balfour, on reversal of £10 million funding for changing ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I am often asked which achievement I am most proud of from my time in Parliament. When I look back over my time here, one of the things that comes to mind is...
The Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
I can confirm to members that there is money coming to changing places this year. I will provide a full summary in my summing-up speech. I would say that muc...
Jeremy Balfour Con
I start by thanking the minister, and I look forward to seeing that money, but the problem is that we have heard that money promised before, and then it has ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 17:38
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I thank Jeremy Balfour for bringing the debate to the chamber. Although I disagree with most of the points in his motion, we both agree that changing places ...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Mr McMillan is making a fine speech, and I do not intend to make this intervention political; I am genuinely seeking information from him as a member of the ...
Stuart McMillan SNP
As Mr Kerr will know, I am a member of the governing party, but I am not a member of the Government. The minister has already stated that she will provide a ...
Jeremy Balfour Con
I welcome what the member has said up to now. However, is he, too, disappointed that the £10 million that was previously in the Scottish Government’s budget ...
Stuart McMillan SNP
Mr Balfour will be aware of the Scottish Government’s financial situation this year. There were reductions in a variety of funds, as has been well documented...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this evening’s debate, and I thank my colleague Jeremy Balfour for bringing it to the chamber. To be clear, ch...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As convener of the cross-party group on changing places toilets, I welcome another opportunity to discuss this important issue in the chamber. Indeed, it is ...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I start by saying to Stuart McMillan, who referenced free prescriptions, that 96 per cent of all prescriptions in England are free, so it is likely that all ...
The Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
I have to say that I was somewhat taken aback by the tone of Jeremy Balfour’s motion, because I have recently spent time at the CPG reassuring members, disab...
Jeremy Balfour Con
I am conscious that your time is running out. Can you tell us—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Please speak through the chair.
Jeremy Balfour Con
I am sorry. Can the minister tell Parliament how much that figure is and whether it will be spent by the third sector in this financial year?
Maree Todd SNP
As the member would expect, there is still some underpinning detail to work through. I expect to be in a position in the new year to give detail about the am...
Stephen Kerr Con
Will the minister give way?
Maree Todd SNP
I would like to finish my points, because we are a little short of time. More generally, the Scottish Government has done a great deal to support disabled ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
That concludes the debate and I close this meeting of Parliament. Meeting closed at 18:08.