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Meeting of the Parliament 05 December 2024

05 Dec 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans and the Armed Forces Community

I absolutely share Christine Grahame’s concerns, which are held across the veterans sector in Lothian. I offer her the reassurance that the Government remains engaged in that issue, to the extent that the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport and I will meet NHS Lothian next week.

As I said, the five remaining V1P services, local arrangements in place in NHS Highland and Shetland, and the delivery of an online clinical service by Combat Stress mean that veterans will have access to veteran-specific services across most of Scotland, but we want that to apply to all of Scotland.

I also note concerns about the pace of progress in implementing the pathway to prevent homelessness for veterans. I outline the positive work that has been progressed during a challenging time for the sector, and it is important to acknowledge that the number of homeless veterans in Scotland remains low. They are a relatively small proportion—around 2 per cent—of homeless households. However, I recognise the concern in that area.

The broad action that the Scottish Government is taking in response to the housing emergency will serve veterans’ housing interests as well as those of the wider population. Our Housing (Scotland) Bill includes new homelessness prevention duties that are designed to help people to get the support that they need earlier. That will help people to avoid the crisis of homelessness and the associated long-term harms.

The proposed new duties build on the existing rights for all those in housing need in Scotland, including veterans. We recognise that, when veterans become homeless, they might have particular needs. We will continue to work with partners, including the Veterans Scotland housing group, to prevent homelessness and improve outcomes for veterans. The Minister for Housing and I are considering what can be done, alongside the Government’s wider work on housing and homelessness, to better support veterans’ housing needs.

Despite those concerns, we have made progress in several areas, with dedicated partners from the public and third sectors. Collaboration remains at the heart of our approach, and I am grateful for the continuing work of our outstanding veterans sector.

This year, we have seen progress with obtaining data on veterans, particularly from the census. It is difficult to overstate the importance of that. The census told us, for example, that nearly 4 per cent of Scotland’s over-16 population have previously served in the armed forces. We should now use that data to support our veterans and their families. I have written to local authority armed forces and veterans champions across the country, so that we can consider how we deploy that information to provide better support at a local level.

Recognising the experiences of underrepresented groups in the veterans community and ensuring that they can access the support and services that they need has been a priority this year. We continue to work with stakeholders to go beyond the suggestions that were made to the Scottish Government in Lord Etherton’s “LGBT Veterans Independent Review” and ensure that the services that we fund are welcoming and inclusive to all.

I also met women veterans to understand their experiences and needs and how access to services can be improved for them. That meeting and what I heard there have stayed with me. I am absolutely committed to doing all that this Government and I can to respond to those needs. We also worked closely with the previous UK Government during the initial development of its women veterans strategy and I credit it for bringing forward that strategy. In her report on community and relationships earlier this year, the veterans commissioner highlighted support for historically underrepresented groups, and we are looking at how we can take forward the report’s recommendations.

In addition, the commissioner published a report on veterans and the law, to which I will provide a fuller response when the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs and I have considered the recommendations in more detail with partners in the justice sector.

Supporting veterans in both their physical and mental health remains a priority. In November last year, the general practice armed forces recognition scheme was launched. The scheme aims to raise awareness among all GP staff of some of the health challenges and impact of military service on the armed forces community, so that we can support the provision of appropriate healthcare. That was highlighted by the commissioner as a particularly welcome development, although she noted the low take-up of the scheme among GP practices, which I am personally exploring further. Let me be clear that I share entirely the commissioner’s disappointment at the uptake. To have had only around 120 of an estimated 5,000 staff avail themselves of that training is not what we had envisaged when we launched the scheme.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-15734, in the name of Graeme Dey, on support for veterans and the armed forces community in Scotland. I i...
The Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
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Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
In the light of what the minister says, does he share my disappointment that NHS Lothian is withdrawing its funding—a paltry £200,000 or thereabouts—to suppo...
Graeme Dey SNP
I absolutely share Christine Grahame’s concerns, which are held across the veterans sector in Lothian. I offer her the reassurance that the Government remain...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to hear that the minister is exploring the issue further, because I share his disappointment. What can we, as members across the chamber, do to ...
Graeme Dey SNP
My ask of members is the ask that I have heard from the veterans charitable community—to spread the word. If members can raise the issue with the GP practice...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. I advise members that there is some time in hand, and therefore I can be generous with members’ speaking times. 14:36
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer—your generosity is always appreciated. I am also delighted to participate in the debate, as an MSP whose region has a long and r...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Paul Sweeney to open on behalf of Scottish Labour, for a generous four minutes. 14:42
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I join the minister in welcoming to the gallery retired Lieutenant Commander Susie Hamilton, who is the Scottish veterans commissioner. We all agree that she...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Maggie Chapman joins us remotely. 14:49
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I echo the minister’s comments about the work of the Scottish veterans commissioner and the importance of providing support to prevent homelessness and impro...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I am pleased that we are having this debate and that we hold it annually, because it is important that we remember that, as the armed forces shrink over the ...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I absolutely agree with what Mr Rennie is saying. Can he foresee us having a facility whereby some of the veterans who have the positive attitude that he des...
Willie Rennie LD
It is important that there is a wide and varied connection between that group of talented people and our education system and beyond. That is why I was pleas...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 14:59
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
When the business programme for this week was published, I asked my office manager whether he thought that I should put my name forward to speak in the veter...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I begin by welcoming the debate. As convener of the cross-party group on the armed forces and veterans community, I know that our veterans face many issues, ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I am privileged to have in my constituency Glencorse barracks, in Penicuik, which is the home of 2 Scots, the second battalion of the Royal Regiment of Scotl...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this debate. In the short time that I have, I will concentrate on Forces Children Scotland, although not because I...
Jamie Greene Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Martin Whitfield Lab
I will.
Jamie Greene Con
I am sorry, Presiding Officer—I forgot to press the wee button. Thank you for taking my intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Greene, could you please just start the intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
A point that has been raised in previous debates is that the spouses or partners of serving members often struggle to find meaningful employment in the area ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Always speak through the chair, Mr Greene.
Martin Whitfield Lab
I agree absolutely. I welcome that intervention, because it allows me to talk about article 9 of the UNCRC, which is about the right of a child not to be sep...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Karen Adam is joining us remotely. 15:19
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am honoured to speak today on an issue that means a great deal to me and to Scotland. Our veterans and our armed forces community represent courage, sacrif...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to closing speeches. 15:23