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Meeting of the Parliament 13 November 2024

13 Nov 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agricultural and Business Property Reliefs (Farms)
Mountain, Edward Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I am delighted to stand up this afternoon and speak about small family farms, which is a subject that is close to my heart. I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I own a small family farm.

I must say that, if I had made Ms Grant’s speech this afternoon, I would hang my head in shame. We should be under no illusions. I am a third-generation farmer. I farm 500 acres, which is not very much in the big scheme of things, and I have seen 25 generations of cows come through in my lifetime. There are 160 of them now, and I am extremely proud of them. I also grow 300 acres of barley and my farm is a winter home to 700 ewes. I let some houses that are part of the original farm, and I have three farm workers, whose wage bill is more than £100,000 a year.

My farm is not dissimilar to other family farms of that size. I am proud that such farms provide local employment and create local expenditure. The farmers have a huge amount of local knowledge through local management, and they take a long-term view of the countryside, their assets and the land that they manage.

My farm is like the hundreds of local farms that I visited across the Highlands when I was a rural surveyor. I absolutely assure you that they are like the farms that belong to the hundreds of farmers who have contacted me regarding the tax. I would like to think that I have prepared—I have had reason to prepare—for when I die. Let me be clear that, if I die tomorrow, the tax will hit me and my family, and it will mean that my family farm will no longer exist.

That is the case because figures indicate—I hope that you are paying attention to this, Ms Grant—that a 200-acre farm with a profit of about £27,000 a year and the normal assets that such a farm has would face an inheritance tax liability of about £400,000. I am happy to sit down in your office and explain the figures to you. That means that the family would have to commit 159 per cent of their profits to pay their tax, having sold about 20 per cent of their land. Those are the real figures that are involved. That is what you and your Government south of the border are going to be destroying, Ms Grant.

As has been made clear, there are other people who will suffer as a result of the situation. There is a massive supply chain. I could mention the hundreds of people who our farm deals with, including Harbro, to whom we pay massive bills for food, and Gleaner, which supplies the farm with oil on a daily basis. If farming and small family farms stop, that will go.

Let me be clear: farmers are asset rich—they have land—but, on the whole, they are cash poor, and this tax will cripple them, as it will cripple many crofters across the Highlands. Members should be under no illusion: crofters will be affected as well.

I have tried to work out in my mind what the reason is for introducing the tax, and I struggled to understand it. However, when I listened to the comments of John McTernan, it became clear that the motivation was spiteful, vindictive and unjustifiable.

Ms Grant, I remind you and your colleagues south of the border that, if you have no farmers, you will have no food. There will be no future for the environment if you destroy the family farms.

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The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
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Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you back your time, Ms Grant.
Rhoda Grant Lab
I would say to Mr Campbell that he needs to put his affairs in order to make sure—Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members!
Rhoda Grant Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Rhoda Grant Lab
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Rachael Hamilton Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Rhoda Grant Lab
I have already taken an intervention. Farming communities tell us of their concerns that good agricultural land is changing hands at excessive prices for ta...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is bringing her remarks to a close.
Rhoda Grant Lab
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Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Beatrice Wishart, who is opening the debate on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats, joins us remotely. 15:13
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Scottish Liberal Democrats will support the motion that is before us today, as well as the Scottish Government’s amendment. The UK Government’s announced ch...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. There is virtually no time in hand, so any interventions should be absorbed in members’ allocated speaking times. 15:17
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am delighted to stand up this afternoon and speak about small family farms, which is a subject that is close to my heart. I remind members of my entry in t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I shall try hard to temper my words in order to obey that instruction, Deputy Presiding Officer. I thank the Conservatives for bringing this debate to the c...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Jim Fairlie SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Leonard, please resume your seat. There is a point of order from the minister, Jim Fairlie.
Jim Fairlie SNP
I would like to draw attention to what Mr Leonard said. He made the accusation against me that I did not declare my register of interests. I do not have an i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. The matter has been put on the record. Mr Leonard, please resume.