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Meeting of the Parliament 13 November 2024

13 Nov 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agricultural and Business Property Reliefs (Farms)
Burgess, Ariane Green Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

The agricultural property relief changes that were announced in the UK budget have created a lot of concern in rural areas and the farming community. There is a distinct lack of clarity over whom the UK Government’s plans will actually hit. The Scottish Greens support inheritance tax because it is pre-distributive, and we also believe that land in Scotland should not be in the hands of a small number of individuals, so we must hear more from Westminster about how its changes will impact farms.

As everyone in the chamber will agree, Whitehall must step in immediately if it becomes clear that small, regenerative food producers are being harmed. We must not become more reliant on food imports from countries that have lower environmental and welfare standards.

The UK Government must also intervene if the measure pushes Scotland in the wrong direction on its land reform journey. If, as my Conservative rural affairs counterpart claims, family farms will sell up en masse due to the new rate of inheritance tax, the big question will be who buys the land when it gets sold because people cannot afford the tax. It will not be new entrants or young farmers; instead, it will be agribusinesses. Greater consolidation is in the interests of a very small number of individuals and it is not in the interests of our nation. Half of all of Scotland’s land is owned by just 433 people. That is a shocking statistic—it is bad for climate, nature and communities. Scottish people deserve better.

New rules could also obscure exactly who owns what in Scotland. I have heard concerns that even more landholders will hide behind corporate or trust structures in order to get around inheritance tax. Although that practice is not illegal in our lax UK tax system, it prevents proper scrutiny and denies taxpayers what they are due. If that scenario comes to pass, it will do so at a time when public finances are in a dire state and an unacceptable number of people are in deprivation.

The motion and amendments that we have before us today do not address the actual issues that most of our food producers face. They completely fail to address why farmers and growers face such challenging circumstances. That says to me that other parties would rather play politics than use this platform to raise the problems that our constituents face.

I will remind members of some of the key issues that our growers face. As we discussed last week, Brexit is ravaging the rural economy; farmers and growers are quitting the industry because of labour shortages that have come about as a direct result of leaving the European Union; seed prices have rocketed since 2020, and fewer varieties are available; and the UK Government is choosing to export our carbon emissions by importing food from countries that have poor standards and light-touch regulation. Those are the problems that we need to talk about, because they all pose a greater threat to farming than changes to inheritance tax.

In the same item of business

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Tim Eagle (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
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Mairi Gougeon SNP
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Mairi Gougeon SNP
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Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you back your time, Ms Grant.
Rhoda Grant Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members!
Rhoda Grant Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Rhoda Grant Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Let me be clear that very few family farms are worth in excess of several million pounds. Indeed, the latest figures show that...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Rhoda Grant Lab
I have already taken an intervention. Farming communities tell us of their concerns that good agricultural land is changing hands at excessive prices for ta...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is bringing her remarks to a close.
Rhoda Grant Lab
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Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The agricultural property relief changes that were announced in the UK budget have created a lot of concern in rural areas and the farming community. There i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Beatrice Wishart, who is opening the debate on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats, joins us remotely. 15:13
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Scottish Liberal Democrats will support the motion that is before us today, as well as the Scottish Government’s amendment. The UK Government’s announced ch...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. There is virtually no time in hand, so any interventions should be absorbed in members’ allocated speaking times. 15:17
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am delighted to stand up this afternoon and speak about small family farms, which is a subject that is close to my heart. I remind members of my entry in t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I take this opportunity to remind members that they must speak through the chair at all times. References to “you” are references to me, and I do not think t...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I shall try hard to temper my words in order to obey that instruction, Deputy Presiding Officer. I thank the Conservatives for bringing this debate to the c...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Much of the language in this debate has been intemperate, inaccurate and deliberately inflammatory. The new Tory rural affairs spokesperson stood up in Parli...
Jim Fairlie SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Leonard, please resume your seat. There is a point of order from the minister, Jim Fairlie.
Jim Fairlie SNP
I would like to draw attention to what Mr Leonard said. He made the accusation against me that I did not declare my register of interests. I do not have an i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, minister. The matter has been put on the record. Mr Leonard, please resume.