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Meeting of the Parliament 12 November 2024

12 Nov 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Women’s Health Plan 2021 to 2024

I very much regret that Tess White wants to lower the tone of what has so far been a consensual debate. That problem stems from her, and I ask her to reflect on those remarks.

I want to re-foster, if I can, the atmosphere of consensus by paying tribute to Gillian Mackay, who spoke eloquently just before me and who spearheaded single-handedly the bill that she brought to the Parliament on safe access zones around clinics that offer abortion and other reproductive services. Our commitment must remain steadfast, so that every woman has the right to make informed choices about her health, supported by the highest standards of care and free from abuse, intimidation, stigma and the dog-whistle politics that we have just heard from Tess White.

As we have heard, the women’s health plan, which was introduced in 2021, marked a step in the right direction. The plan rightly acknowledges that advancing women’s health is about not just reproductive rights but treating women’s health needs holistically, giving priority to issues that are often dismissed and stigmatised, and recognising, in particular, the abundant health inequalities that exist in Scotland in 2024. That includes expanding access to menopause care, ensuring rapid support for postnatal contraception and focusing on often-overlooked conditions such as cardiac disease, which affects women differently yet has historically received far less attention and financing than heart disease in men.

I welcome the focus that has been brought by the implementation of the plan and, in particular, the appointment of Professor Anna Glasier as the national women’s health champion, but it is important that we do not rest on our laurels. We must recognise the significant work that is still needed. For example, despite increasing awareness, many women who suffer from endometriosis continue to endure years of severe pain before they are even given a proper diagnosis or a pathway to treatment. The delays disrupt careers, education and family life. We know that such delays only compound endometriosis and make it worse, increasing the chances of it spreading and damaging multiple organs. We need to treat it with the same urgency that we offer at the moment for similar conditions. We are failing in that regard.

Similarly, coronary heart disease is a leading cause of death among women in Scotland, claiming the lives of more than 2,500 every year—twice as many women as are killed by breast cancer. I am pleased that the report has focused on that. The proposed new specialist centre in NHS Forth Valley is especially welcome.

However, we need to go further. We need to ensure that those women who are most at risk are given the advice and support that they need. That includes those who are experiencing early menopause or high blood pressure during pregnancy.

We also need to improve access to menopause care more generally, particularly in rural areas. That is something of a postcode lottery and provision remains inconsistent, with services stretched across the board. Menopause is a condition that will affect every woman in Scotland. It is not a surprise; it is something that we can plan for. However, I am struck by the lack of provision—or the patchy provision—in so many parts of the country. Just this week, I was visited by a constituent who lives in our nation’s capital, who is going through menopause and is unable to access the basic advice and support that she needs.

It goes without saying that the Government has a duty to ensure equal access to treatment for all women, no matter where they live. We need each NHS board to actively prioritise women’s health in its area.

Women’s health can be disproportionately impacted at times of financial strain. That is a gendered issue that highlights the need to remain focused, even as NHS budgets are at full stretch. For the plan to succeed, it needs to be backed fully by the Government, and we need to ensure that we have appropriate staffing—safe staffing—and regular updates on progress. Without those, it risks becoming just another set of promises.

Liberal Democrats remain focused on improving primary care, which is essential to women’s health—indeed, it is essential to the health of all of us. Quick access to general practitioners, mental health specialists and services such as physiotherapy can make all the difference. We want to have world-class mental health services across Scotland, which could provide much-needed support for women who are facing postnatal depression or who are at risk of postpartum psychosis.

We have come so far, but there is still a great distance to go when it comes to supporting perinatal mental health in Scotland. I raised that issue repeatedly during the previous session, but I am dismayed to see that we have made very little progress on it.

I reflect on the cultural change that still needs to take place. Too often, women’s health concerns are met with stigma or outright dismissal, or they are the subject of dog-whistle politics. We saw that clearly in the experience of the survivors of transvaginal mesh, who had to fight for years to have their pain recognised and treated. Health issues that disproportionately affect women deserve to be treated with the same urgency, attention and seriousness as any other condition, and they must be met with dignity and respect. I hope that the health plan that we debate today marks a renewed and invigorated commitment to seeing those changes through, so that we continue to walk the path to a better, healthier future for women in Scotland.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-15382, in the name of Jenni Minto, on progress and next steps on the women’s health plan 2021 to 2024. 1...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
I am extremely passionate about women’s health, so I warmly welcome this debate and the opportunity to bring this important topic back to the chamber. We kn...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The minister met me and endometriosis campaigners last April. She looked at a policy paper from the Scottish Conservatives regarding ways to improve access t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I will give you the time back, minister.
Jenni Minto SNP
I thank Rachael Hamilton for her work, specifically in the Borders, on endometriosis diagnosis times. I recognise that diagnosis times for endometriosis are ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
It is clear to say that, when it comes to specialist neonatal services, the consultants, all the clinicians and the women who are involved are opposed to the...
Jenni Minto SNP
We have received advice from clinical experts in the field, and they, as well as the charity Bliss, which advocates for parents, all support the reduction in...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I invite Annie Wells to speak to and move amendment S6M-15382.1. 15:09
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I begin by thanking the many organisations that have provided briefings for the debate. Health is one of the biggest issues in the minds of people across our...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Carol Mochan to speak to and move amendment S6M-15382.2. 15:17
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am so pleased that Government time has been given to debating women’s health today. We will support the Government’s motion tonight. If we have learned an...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Does Carol Mochan agree that there needs to be a separate road map for women and that the women’s health plan needs to be sex specific?
Carol Mochan Lab
Yes, of course. I return to my point about unhealthy life expectancy. Not only do our poorest neighbours die younger, they live life in a much poorer state ...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
The women’s health plan that was launched in 2021 marked a significant commitment to addressing the distinct health needs of women across Scotland and aimed ...
Tess White Con
I would like to ask you whether you—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair, please, Ms White.
Tess White Con
Sorry. Does the member agree that we benefited from working collaboratively in the work that we did as a committee on the buffer zones?
Gillian Mackay Green
Absolutely. It very much helps us all if we work collaboratively in the sphere of women’s health. I hope that we will have a similar level of conversation in...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
It gives me pleasure to speak for the Liberal Democrats in what is a vital debate. I am grateful to Jenny Minto for securing Government time to bring the deb...
Tess White Con
Alex Cole-Hamilton referenced the US in relation to abortion, but will he also applaud the fact that, even though Donald Trump is a controversial figure, he ...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I very much regret that Tess White wants to lower the tone of what has so far been a consensual debate. That problem stems from her, and I ask her to reflect...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I note that a member who was looking to participate in the debate has not been here throughout the opening speeches, for which I will need an explanation and...
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
I was glad to hear, in the minister’s opening speech, about the progress that has been made on endometriosis and, in particular, on managing the pain that co...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
As the first women’s health plan comes to an end, I welcome the opportunity to take stock. I thank Jenni Minto and her team for the cross-party working that ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Over the years, I have raised concerns about a range of women’s health issues, from endometriosis and pre-eclampsia to cardiovascular conditions and breast c...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Government for bringing forward this debate on such an important issue. Although I welcome the fact that some progress has been made on the women...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to what has been an informative and excellent debate. I will begin by following on from Pam Duncan-Glancy’s thoughtful contributio...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
Like my colleagues, I am pleased that we are taking time to debate the subject of women’s health. It is an issue that regularly appears in my constituency po...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
We now move to closing speeches. I call Gillian Mackay to close on behalf of the Scottish Greens. 16:21
Gillian Mackay Green
This has been an interesting debate and I will reflect on some of the contributions. In her opening statement, the minister laid out how important it is to l...