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Meeting of the Parliament 12 November 2024

12 Nov 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Women’s Health Plan 2021 to 2024

I am so pleased that Government time has been given to debating women’s health today. We will support the Government’s motion tonight.

If we have learned anything from the women’s health plan, it is that every target in the next women’s health plan must have attached to it a clear action plan and a pathway to deliver it. Otherwise, it will just be more words to women in our communities. When our population desperately needs action, it is incumbent on us to ensure that we have a delivery plan. I am very pleased that the Government will support our amendment at decision time.

Since the introduction of the women’s health plan, it has always been my intention—and, indeed, the intention of the Scottish Labour Party—to scrutinise it fairly, with the genuine hope that it would be a success and that access to and quality of women’s health services would improve across the country.

As the minister indicated, securing a women’s health champion was a significant step forward, supported by Scottish Labour, in achieving some form of progress for women. I welcome Professor Glasier’s account of what the plan has achieved so far and what she hopes it will achieve in the future. Nonetheless, she and others continue to identify where there are problems and where we must strive to do better.

What we all agree is that women’s health must continue to be a priority if we are to have any hope of getting on top of the backlog of pain and misdiagnosis that so many women continue to suffer.

We will all have had meetings or phone calls with women who are unable to access diagnosis and treatment. As other members have said, we must mention those with endometriosis, in particular. I am sure that other members will cover it in their speeches today, but I note that women have suffered over many years, as there has been an absolute void in service for that condition. I welcome the changes, but there is much more to be addressed in the coming years.

We are all pleased with the achievements in women’s healthcare during this session of Parliament in areas such as the introduction of buffer zones to ensure that women can access healthcare free of intimidation and with the roll-out of the human papillomavirus vaccine as part of our fight to eradicate cervical cancer. I have been desperately pleased to see the progress in those areas.

I also want to mention, as the minister brought it up, the online women’s health platform, through which factual information is now available to young girls and women in Scotland. As we go through our life cycle, we can go back to that at the points when we need it. Professor Glasier spoke to us about that at one of the cross-party meetings that the minister pulled together.

However, it is undoubtedly the case that, in other areas, progress has been far too slow and that health inequalities have deepened and are very real for many people in our most deprived communities. All members have a responsibility to acknowledge that and to scrutinise the Government to ensure that the dial can finally be moved on the issue. We cannot have a debate such as this without understanding that life expectancy in our most deprived communities is falling and is far lower than it is in our most affluent areas. Of course, we are all more aware of the issues around unhealthy life expectancy.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-15382, in the name of Jenni Minto, on progress and next steps on the women’s health plan 2021 to 2024. 1...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
I am extremely passionate about women’s health, so I warmly welcome this debate and the opportunity to bring this important topic back to the chamber. We kn...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The minister met me and endometriosis campaigners last April. She looked at a policy paper from the Scottish Conservatives regarding ways to improve access t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I will give you the time back, minister.
Jenni Minto SNP
I thank Rachael Hamilton for her work, specifically in the Borders, on endometriosis diagnosis times. I recognise that diagnosis times for endometriosis are ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
It is clear to say that, when it comes to specialist neonatal services, the consultants, all the clinicians and the women who are involved are opposed to the...
Jenni Minto SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I invite Annie Wells to speak to and move amendment S6M-15382.1. 15:09
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I begin by thanking the many organisations that have provided briefings for the debate. Health is one of the biggest issues in the minds of people across our...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Carol Mochan to speak to and move amendment S6M-15382.2. 15:17
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am so pleased that Government time has been given to debating women’s health today. We will support the Government’s motion tonight. If we have learned an...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Does Carol Mochan agree that there needs to be a separate road map for women and that the women’s health plan needs to be sex specific?
Carol Mochan Lab
Yes, of course. I return to my point about unhealthy life expectancy. Not only do our poorest neighbours die younger, they live life in a much poorer state ...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
The women’s health plan that was launched in 2021 marked a significant commitment to addressing the distinct health needs of women across Scotland and aimed ...
Tess White Con
I would like to ask you whether you—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair, please, Ms White.
Tess White Con
Sorry. Does the member agree that we benefited from working collaboratively in the work that we did as a committee on the buffer zones?
Gillian Mackay Green
Absolutely. It very much helps us all if we work collaboratively in the sphere of women’s health. I hope that we will have a similar level of conversation in...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
It gives me pleasure to speak for the Liberal Democrats in what is a vital debate. I am grateful to Jenny Minto for securing Government time to bring the deb...
Tess White Con
Alex Cole-Hamilton referenced the US in relation to abortion, but will he also applaud the fact that, even though Donald Trump is a controversial figure, he ...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I very much regret that Tess White wants to lower the tone of what has so far been a consensual debate. That problem stems from her, and I ask her to reflect...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I note that a member who was looking to participate in the debate has not been here throughout the opening speeches, for which I will need an explanation and...
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
I was glad to hear, in the minister’s opening speech, about the progress that has been made on endometriosis and, in particular, on managing the pain that co...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
As the first women’s health plan comes to an end, I welcome the opportunity to take stock. I thank Jenni Minto and her team for the cross-party working that ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Over the years, I have raised concerns about a range of women’s health issues, from endometriosis and pre-eclampsia to cardiovascular conditions and breast c...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Government for bringing forward this debate on such an important issue. Although I welcome the fact that some progress has been made on the women...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to what has been an informative and excellent debate. I will begin by following on from Pam Duncan-Glancy’s thoughtful contributio...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
Like my colleagues, I am pleased that we are taking time to debate the subject of women’s health. It is an issue that regularly appears in my constituency po...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
We now move to closing speeches. I call Gillian Mackay to close on behalf of the Scottish Greens. 16:21
Gillian Mackay Green
This has been an interesting debate and I will reflect on some of the contributions. In her opening statement, the minister laid out how important it is to l...