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Meeting of the Parliament 09 October 2024

09 Oct 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Budget Priorities 2025-26
Greer, Ross Green West Scotland Watch on SPTV

I am sorry, but I will not be able to take Katy Clark’s intervention, because I am just closing.

The Greens want to see progress big and small. We want, for example, a revaluation of the rates for council tax, but we also want the ability to set parking fines to be devolved to councils, which we need to start seeing as an equal tier of government.

There are some direct budget choices and others that—I will be quite honest—we are simply using as a point of leverage with the Government.

We are proud of our previous budget agreements that delivered free bus travel for under-22s; £1.5 billion of additional income for public services; an increase to the additional dwelling supplement; record spending on walking, wheeling and cycling; the nature restoration fund; the removal of peak rail fares; and more.

The challenge for the Scottish Government this year will not just be around specific proposals but around its ability to provide trust and good faith to any other party in the Parliament that it needs to deal with that what is agreed in the budget is what will be delivered. Agreement is possible, but the challenge for the Scottish Government is for it to prove that it is able and willing to deliver it.

I move,

That the Parliament notes that the fiscal levers that are currently available to the Scottish Government are inadequate to fully protect public services and communities from UK Government austerity and economic turmoil, but that the Scottish Government must use every power at its disposal to address the urgent social, economic and environmental challenges that Scotland faces, and calls, therefore, on the Scottish Government to explore all avenues to fiscal sustainability, including seeking opportunities for further powers, such as those over levies and charges, to be devolved to local government for 2025-26, creating new powers, such as a cruise ship levy, exploring how a carbon emissions land tax and a power of general competence could be delivered and ensuring the most effective and progressive use of existing tax powers and tax reliefs and that spending does not undermine the core missions of tackling child poverty and the climate emergency.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-14825, in the name of Ross Greer, on budget priorities 2025-26. I invite members who wish to participate ...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
We are back to being a Parliament of minorities, which means that, for a budget to pass—or, indeed, for any parliamentary business to be agreed to—co-operati...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Would Mr Greer like to reflect on the fact that, under the fiscal framework and the Barnett formula, we in Scotland have around 20 per cent more to spend per...
Ross Greer Green
I am grateful for that intervention. There is a range of explanations for those outcomes. First and foremost, although we have greater spending per head, we ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Ross Greer is right about sustainability and right to think about additional levies. However, I do not think that the levies that he has talked about, such a...
Ross Greer Green
I am grateful for that intervention, because it takes me to a point that I am about to touch on. Before I get to it, I want to round off the shared responsib...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Made a request to intervene.
Ross Greer Green
I am sorry, but I will not be able to take Katy Clark’s intervention, because I am just closing. The Greens want to see progress big and small. We want, for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
As ever with these debates, there is very limited time in hand, so interventions will have to be accommodated largely within the speaking allocations. 15:00
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
I thank the Scottish Green Party for lodging the motion. It is absolutely right that the fiscal levers that are currently available to the Scottish Governmen...
Daniel Johnson Lab
The cabinet secretary is right to talk about fiscal sustainability. What are her reflections on the Scottish Fiscal Commission’s observation about the £600 m...
Shona Robison SNP
The Scottish Fiscal Commission also said that there is “considerable uncertainty” about the resources that will be coming to the Scottish Government from the...
Ross Greer Green
I would appreciate it if the cabinet secretary could confirm that it is still the Scottish Government’s intention to deliver a cruise ship levy by the end of...
Shona Robison SNP
Yes—subject to all the consultation that we need in order to take on board stakeholders’ views of the cruise ship levy. It is important that we get that righ...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I do not think that I have ever seen a motion so full of so much nonsense as Ross Greer’s. Let me try to unpick exactly where the Greens are in error—althoug...
Ross Greer Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
Of course.
Ross Greer Green
I am very grateful to Mr Fraser for taking the intervention. I am interested in his thoughts on the question that I posed. Does he believe that the Parliamen...
Murdo Fraser Con
The Parliament has the most generous block grant in the history of devolution. The block grant has nearly doubled in real terms since the Parliament was esta...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
I have only four minutes, and I have a lot more to say. I am sorry. Scotland is forecast to have the fifth-lowest gross domestic product growth of any UK r...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I agree with Ross Greer that it is certainly a good thing that we are going to have the long-awaited fiscal sustainability debate. There are real challenges ...
Ross Greer Green
I could not agree more with Mr Marra on his frustration with the failure to reform the council tax. Can he clarify Labour’s position on reforming the council...
Michael Marra Lab
Over the past decade, the Labour Party has brought forward a range of measures to reform council tax, but we have not found willing partners in this chamber....
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister!
Michael Marra Lab
Presiding Officer, given some of the cabinet secretary’s comments, you can understand why I am sceptical as to whether a shopping list of additional levies w...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
As normal, the Liberal Democrats will come forward with costed, reasonable proposals that will balance a growing economy with an interest in our constituenci...
Shona Robison SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Willie Rennie LD
Not just now. When there is evidence that the majority of what is raised through a tax rise will be lost to behavioural change, there is no concern. No ques...
Ross Greer Green
Will the member take an intervention?