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Meeting of the Parliament 04 June 2024

04 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
McNair, Marie SNP Clydebank and Milngavie Watch on SPTV

I speak in the debate as a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. I thank the committee clerks for their assistance with the production of our report.

The committee received very helpful evidence from across the third sector and from local authorities and those representing the insurance sector. I thank CPAG and the Poverty Alliance for their helpful briefings, in which they welcomed the bill and made suggestions for further consideration.

The Scottish Government has already made significant progress with the social security system by delivering 14 benefits that tackle poverty and reduce inequality. However, we can always make improvements, and that is what the bill aims to do. The bill’s main policy objective is to enhance the social security system in line with the principles that are laid out in the 2018 act. Those principles underpin our social security system, to ensure that it is based on fairness, dignity and respect. In particular, the principles require that

“opportunities are ... sought to continuously improve the Scottish social security system in ways”

that

“put the needs of those who require assistance first, and ... advance equality and non-discrimination”.

In addition,

“the Scottish social security system is to be efficient and deliver value for money.”

Throughout stage 1, I and the committee as a whole have kept those principles at the forefront of our minds in considering and reviewing the bill. It is welcome that, in general, witnesses agree that, overall, the bill aligns with those principles, with the exception of the provisions on information for audit. I welcome the cabinet secretary’s assurances on further work in that regard.

The bill has nine parts, the first eight of which are dealt with in the committee’s report. For the sake of time, I will touch on two important parts. On determinations and redeterminations, I have always been mindful of the fact that the benefits process can be confusing. The committee noted that there was scope to make

“changes ... which could help to streamline the redetermination and appeal processes for clients.”

The committee also noted that, by simplifying and streamlining the system, we can build on and better incorporate the principles, ensuring that it

“embodies fairness, dignity and respect, as well as ... providing”

better

“value for money.”

However, the committee asked that

“the Scottish Government ... consider ... suggestions made by witnesses for creating consistent deadlines for redeterminations, removing the need for an error to be identified before an appeal can be lapsed, providing a ‘cooling off’ period for withdrawing requests for redeterminations and appeals”

and

“removing the need for a redetermination stage after an appeal has lapsed”.

As a result of Covid-19, provision was introduced to allow for late applications. That is no longer needed, but it flagged important points around the need for greater flexibility to deal with late applications. The committee and I welcome the cabinet secretary’s plans to take forward investigations at stage 2 to extend the flexibility of the provision to accommodate late applications from claimants who face challenging situations. We would also appreciate the cabinet secretary’s consideration of whether further provisions for backdating could be looked into.

Overall, it is felt that the amendment has been undertaken in a way that takes account of the ethos of the 2018 act while considering developments in the social security system. It was, at times, hard to ensure that the social security principles were upheld, so the committee and I welcome further reassurance that the core principles of fairness, dignity and respect are at the heart of the provisions, including regarding information for audit.

I am glad that the committee supports the general principles of the bill, and I welcome it as a step forward in ensuring that our social security system meets our high standards and upholds our principles of fairness, dignity and respect.

15:40  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
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Collette Stevenson (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP
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Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Will Jeremy Balfour give way?
Jeremy Balfour Con
For Mr Mason, absolutely.
John Mason SNP
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Jeremy Balfour Con
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Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
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Jeremy Balfour Con
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jeremy Balfour Con
I am afraid that I am running out of time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a bit of time in hand this afternoon. Should the member wish to take the intervention, he can, but it is up to him.
Jeremy Balfour Con
You are too kind, Deputy Presiding Officer.
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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Jeremy Balfour Con
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Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I thank everyone who has worked on the bill, in particular the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. I also thank the Child Poverty Action Group, the...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
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Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I speak in the debate as a member of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. I thank the committee clerks for their assistance with the production ...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to closing speeches. 15:49
Maggie Chapman Green
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Bob Doris SNP
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Maggie Chapman Green
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Paul O’Kane Lab
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Roz McCall (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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