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Meeting of the Parliament 18 September 2024

18 Sep 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Creating a Modern, Diverse and Dynamic Scotland
Ross, Douglas Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I am sorry, but I have already taken two interventions from members on the Government front bench.

As historians look back over the past 10 years, they will see them as Scotland’s lost decade—years in which we divided our country and fought bitter arguments against ourselves on an issue that we had already voted on. Generations of Scots will come to see that as a national act of self-harm. They will wonder why some chose to continue to make the same arguments again and again, why the Government of the day chose to indulge in fantasy politics instead of dealing with the real issues that our country faced, and why the national interest was ignored for the SNP’s nationalist interest. They will see through the empty promises and understand that, for the past 10 years, the independence debate has been a distraction and a deflection from other issues. The SNP has wheeled out its pledge election after election to avoid having to stand on its record. It is a way of blaming Westminster for all the ills that Scotland faces and, ultimately, of avoiding taking responsibility for the grave errors that the SNP has made.

Today, on the 10th anniversary of the 2014 independence referendum, my message to John Swinney and the SNP Government is this: you lost. Get over it, and let us all move on.

I move amendment S6M-14524.4, to leave out from “the Scottish Government” to end and insert:

“Scotland is a modern, diverse, dynamic nation as part of the UK, and believes that the Scottish Government should use all its powers to improve the lives of people who live in Scotland by prioritising health, education and the other devolved functions, and accept the result of the independence referendum of 18 September 2014, when Scotland voted to remain part of the UK.”

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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-14524, in the name of John Swinney, on creating a modern, diverse and dynamic Scotland. I invite members ...
The First Minister (John Swinney) SNP
From my experience of taking part in every year of this Parliament since it was reconvened 25 years ago, one thing is clear—no matter where any of us sit in ...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
As the First Minister is speaking about powers, will he outline how many powers he has been offered by the UK Government but has returned to it because the S...
The First Minister SNP
It is clear from what I have set out so far, and from my comments earlier today, that, since the independence referendum in 2014, there has been a strengthen...
Douglas Ross Con
It is the powers that—
The First Minister SNP
The powers that I am concerned about are the powers of this Parliament that the people of Scotland voted for in a democratic referendum in 1997. Those powers...
Douglas Ross Con
I will try a different question, then. Will the First Minister tell this Parliament one power that the UK Government has taken away from the Scottish Governm...
The First Minister SNP
The use of the internal market—
Douglas Ross Con
One power that has been taken away.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Ross.
The First Minister SNP
I will explain to Mr Ross exactly what has happened, if he is not familiar with what he has voted for. This Parliament had exclusive power over a range of co...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Douglas Ross to speak to and to move amendment S6M-14524.4. 15:11
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I want to start by imagining a different decade to the one that we have had—not a different outcome on 18 September 2014, because the people of Scotland vote...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Let us hear Mr Ross.
Douglas Ross Con
I believe that Scotland is a modern, dynamic and diverse country—that is set out in my amendment. However, the SNP does not believe that; that is clear from ...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
I am a big fan of being true to your word. What would have happened if the Conservatives had been true to their word, when they said, “Vote no to stay in the...
Douglas Ross Con
I am sorry, but the Deputy First Minister cannot pick and choose. “One choice” is what the nationalists told us in 2014. They said that it was a “once-in-a-g...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Always speak through the chair, please.
Douglas Ross Con
I cannot believe that the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care does not believe that our health service is in crisis. I am happy to give way if he ca...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
I refuse to talk down the work of the incredible staff and committed workforce in our health service. The First Minister provided a list of the Government’s ...
Douglas Ross Con
Can the health secretary not understand that we have the highest number of drug deaths not just in the United Kingdom but across Europe and that one in six p...
The First Minister SNP
Will Mr Ross give way?
Douglas Ross Con
Is there extra time for an intervention?
The Presiding Officer NPA
There is no extra time.
Douglas Ross Con
I am sorry, but I have given way twice to members on the SNP front bench. In his motion, John Swinney claims that independence is “normal”, but a democracy ...
The First Minister SNP
Will Mr Ross give way?
Douglas Ross Con
I am sorry, but I am very tight for time. If there was an opportunity for me to get more time, I would give way.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Taking interventions, within members’ allocated time, is a matter for members.
Douglas Ross Con
I am sorry, but I have already taken two interventions from members on the Government front bench. As historians look back over the past 10 years, they will...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Anas Sarwar to speak to and move amendment S6M-14524.5. 15:20