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Meeting of the Parliament 05 September 2024

05 Sep 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Programme for Government 2024-25 (Eradicating Child Poverty)
Gilruth, Jenny SNP Mid Fife and Glenrothes Watch on SPTV

Ending child poverty is the single greatest priority for this Government and is, I hope, a truly national mission that is supported across the chamber. I am pleased to be opening this debate as education secretary in what I hope is a demonstration of the cross-Government approach that we are taking to that mission. Ending child poverty is a job not just for me, the social justice secretary, the health secretary or any one of my colleagues; it is a mission for all of us in Government at all levels.

We undoubtedly approach that mission in what are clearly challenging circumstances. The Scottish Government’s budget is under the most severe and sustained pressure since this Parliament was reconvened in 1999. However, it is worth reminding Parliament that it is in that challenging context that we are already taking considerable action to alleviate child poverty within our current devolved powers.

We are investing around £3 billion per year in our mission to eradicate child poverty, address the cost of living crisis and break the cycle of poverty, and we know that that action is making a difference. Modelling that was published in February estimates that 100,000 children will be kept out of relative poverty this year by Scottish Government policies such as the Scottish child payment, with relative child poverty levels estimated to be 10 percentage points lower than they would otherwise have been. As Professor Morag Treanor from the University of Glasgow has observed, the Scottish child payment has been a game changer for Scotland. She noted that

“Levels of child poverty in Scotland will drop faster”

and

“further than they will in the rest of the UK, particularly England, because of this payment”.

However, there is much more that we need to do in order to fully eradicate child poverty.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-14322, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on the programme for government—eradicating child poverty. I invite ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
Ending child poverty is the single greatest priority for this Government and is, I hope, a truly national mission that is supported across the chamber. I am ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
The First Minister made quite a deal yesterday about the interconnected, whole-family approach that is required in order to help families, but there was no r...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Mr Rennie might know that I am recused from issues to do with The Promise as my wife sits on the oversight board. However, I am sure that Shirley-Anne Somerv...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary talks about family provision. One of the family provisions that allow disabled people to go out is the provision of changing places toi...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Mr Balfour raises an extremely valid point, and I recognise the challenge in this instance. He will also recognise the real challenges that the Scottish Gove...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I would like to make some progress. We know that that approach is making a substantial difference already, by saving families money and, importantly, allowi...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I will, but I am mindful of time, Presiding Officer.
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The cabinet secretary will be aware that a survey that was conducted by Pregnant Then Screwed found that a quarter of mothers on maternity leave who are elig...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back for the intervention, cabinet secretary.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am happy to work with the member and, of course, with Natalie Don-Innes, the Minister for Children, Young People and the Pro...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I advise members that we have a little time in hand, so I encourage members who have not yet pressed their request-to-speak b...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank the many organisations that provided useful briefings ahead of the debate. Yesterday, during the programme for government statement, the First Mini...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
The member mentioned that he was due to meet the Minister for Housing soon. I am sure that during that meeting, the minister will furnish him with the detail...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I will give Miles Briggs the time back.
Miles Briggs Con
I welcome that, and I have been in constant discussion with the Minister for Housing. We also need to look at the new models that have not been taken forwa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Miles Briggs Con
Finally, I note that the programme for government was a missed opportunity to develop opportunities to end child poverty. We need to work across parties to d...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As always when we debate child poverty, I start by highlighting the consensus that—as we have already heard this afternoon—there is no more important mission...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Paul O’Kane Lab
In a moment—I will just make this point. That is 260,000 children in total across Scotland, according to the most recent figures. They will go through the i...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am listening to the member recount the challenges that the Scottish Government faces. I hope that he will also be mindful that the Scottish Government does...
Paul O’Kane Lab
The cabinet secretary and I debated issues around child poverty five or six times in the chamber pre-election, and each time that we did so, I made it clear ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Paul O’Kane Lab
I think that I am now in my last minute, but I will take the intervention if I can have the time back, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Yes, indeed.
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Despite the circumstances that we are in with the finances, the Government’s programme is keeping 100,000 children out of poverty. I would say that that is a...
Paul O’Kane Lab
It would be useful to understand how that figure has been arrived at, because the Deputy First Minister had trouble articulating it this morning on “Good Mor...