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Meeting of the Parliament 28 May 2024

28 May 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Roddick, Emma SNP Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

Regarding amendments 23 and 24, I share the concern of constituents and business owners in my region that the implementation of a charge at caravan or holiday parks could displace motorhomes and caravans to lay-bys, farms or people’s gardens. However, as the minister mentioned, local authorities will be able to decide what to cover, and the situation may well be different in different areas of Scotland. Those local authorities will know that better than I do. I look forward to Highland Council’s consultation on that, and I am sure that my constituents who made strong representations to me will be able to do so in that process, too.

In light of that, instead of throwing out motorhomes and camping sites altogether, as the amendments seek to do, we should explore how to catch all non-resident and non-Gypsy Traveller motorhomes that use our roads—often to unsustainable levels, as happens every year on Skye and across the north coast 500 route. Such motorhomes could be charged, either physically or through a licence plate recognition system, at entry points such as the Skye bridge or a point on the north coast 500, or when disembarking from ferries.

Those vehicles damage our roads. They present costs to the local authority without always paying back, either to the council’s budget or to the local economy in any way. Anyone who lives by the north coast 500 route will tell of the personal costs that they have incurred, whether that is in removing rubbish, repairing damage or claiming on their car insurance because of the state that the roads have been left in. Although increasing the number of rangers could help with that, that would also be a cost to the local authority. Money for that has to come from somewhere, and I would much rather that there be a minimal charge on those who use the council’s roads than that my constituents’ council tax bills go up to cover the cost. I hope that the minister will be happy to consider how we can charge those vehicles fairly and effectively without promoting displacement and irresponsible tourism, and I would be very interested in taking part in the summer engagement that he mentioned.

I also have great sympathy with Liam McArthur’s amendment 1. Although I understand why it may not be suitable for the bill, I am glad that he lodged it, as it has allowed the debate, and I am keen to support his and others’ calls for a levy on cruise ships at a suitable opportunity.

Across the Highlands and Islands, cruise ships arrive with more people on board than the populations of the towns that they visit. That is a lot for any local authority to deal with, even if some businesses manage to take advantage of it—while many do not. Whether or not a local person supports those ship visits, it is hard to argue that there is no impact—the impact often costs the public purse, even if it pays into private interests in other ways. I am therefore glad to hear from the minister that the door is open. He can expect me to knock on it soon.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with amendments, members should refer to the bill as amended...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 1 is on the payment of the levy. Amendment 21, in the name of Miles Briggs, is grouped with amendment 33.
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Amendment 21 and amendment 33 are probing amendments about how and when the levy will be paid and how small businesses that will be tasked with the administr...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Given the fact that Miles Briggs states that amendment 21 is a probing amendment, my point is moot. I fully accept his point about ensuring that the provider...
The Minister for Employment and Investment (Tom Arthur) SNP
The amendments in this group relate to the arrangements for paying a visitor levy if the local authority chooses to introduce one. Under the bill, the overni...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Miles Briggs to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 21.
Miles Briggs Con
I have listened to what the minister has had to say. This will be in the detail when the bill is operational, but it is important that businesses know how an...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 2 is on the meaning of overnight accommodation. Amendment 22, in the name of Miles Briggs, is grouped with amendments 23 to 25, 1, 2, 26 to 29 and 3. I...
Miles Briggs Con
This set of amendments seeks to remove camping sites, hostels and caravans from places that are considered to be overnight accommodation in the bill. During ...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
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Tom Arthur SNP
These amendments all deal with the types of overnight accommodation on which the levy would be payable and I am pleased to have the opportunity to respond to...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Given the pressures on coastal and island communities that cruise ships bring, I will speak to Liam McArthur’s amendments in the group. Last year, while we w...
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Regarding amendments 23 and 24, I share the concern of constituents and business owners in my region that the implementation of a charge at caravan or holida...
Miles Briggs Con
The debate sums up the difficulties and problems that members across parties have with the framework bills that the Government is introducing. Everything is ...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
Miles Briggs was at the meeting of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee at stage 2 at which I proposed an amendment to have boat moorings rem...
Miles Briggs Con
I am not sure that that is 100 per cent the case, to be honest. Sometimes, if people are travelling around the country on their boats, they stay on their boa...
Tom Arthur SNP
I assure Miles Briggs that there has been extensive consultation and engagement, by officials and by me personally, with representatives of the boating and m...
Miles Briggs Con
Businesses and people who are trying to navigate the levy saw the complex nature of the short-term lets legislation, and this bill will be the same, if not w...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Miles Briggs Con
Yes.
Edward Mountain Con
I am slightly confused because, across the Highlands, caravans use not only caravan parks but local government-approved car parks, where they are allowed to ...
Miles Briggs Con
I absolutely do. We have reached stage 3 without the Government being able to work with parties across the chamber—and only recently has the Government had t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The question is, that amendment 22 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There will be a division. As this is the first division of stage 3, I will suspend for about five minutes to allow members to access the digital voting syste...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the division on amendment 22. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is closed.
The Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture (Angus Robertson) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect via the app. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Robertson. Your vote will be recorded.
The Minister for Drugs and Alcohol Policy (Christina McKelvie) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect to the app. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms McKelvie. Your vote will be recorded.
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes.