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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2024

26 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill

As I understand it, it was a negotiation in Wales.

In its analysis of the bill, the Finance and Public Administration Committee raised concerns about the pressures on local authorities and said that more work will need to be done to address cost savings and changes to revenues that the bill would lead to. The code of practice is a key issue and it is key that partnership work and funding take place.

The waste hierarchy is important, because we tend to focus on how we deal with waste instead of supporting our communities and businesses to repurpose, reuse, repair and recycle goods and products and materials, rather than seeing them going to waste and damaging our environment and communities. Where the circular economy is critical is in how we design products in the first place, so that they do not become obsolete, with valuable materials that could be reused being dumped.

One of the missed opportunities that I hope the minister will come back to was in Maurice Golden’s stage 3 amendment to require public bodies to prepare a circular economy plan. That is critical, because public procurement is key. It would incentivise investment in circular economy products, practices and supply chains, raise awareness among public bodies and make a real difference. I hope that the minister will come back to that.

We need stronger action on how we deal with plastics that damage our environment, whether on land or sea, and it is about coming together to think about what more can be done there. Recently, I was contacted by a constituent who, as a schoolteacher, was taking school students to take part in a beach clean, and they were shocked to see the levels of pollution there, and a lot of it was plastic. One of the things that will be key to the implementation of the bill will be investing in schools and involving them in the discussion, so that we educate young people about the damage that is caused by waste and what they can do to stop it. From talking to parents, I know that kids sometimes feed back information from schools.

We need to make everybody aware of the impact of avoiding the generation of waste and dealing with the waste that we produce much more responsibly, we need to make demands on companies and local authorities in that regard, and we need support to be provided for the fantastic community projects that enable our constituents to reuse and repair products. There is a lot more that we could do in that area.

I have mentioned missed opportunities, and I want to finish by giving a couple of examples. One of those involved my global responsibility ambition in relation to not offshoring our waste and leaving other countries to deal with it. Between 2004 and 2022, Scottish waste exports rose from 0.4 megatonnes to 1.5 megatonnes, which is a massive increase.

Whether on our climate ambitions or our efforts to be a global leader, we need to do more. We need to take more seriously the issue of where our materials come from and the human rights and environmental impacts of that, and we need to make sure that work to address that is built into our everyday work and that the public sector leads on that. We will have to come back to the bill, because the job is not finished.

17:35  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13757, in the name of Gillian Martin, on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. As members wil...
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy (Màiri McAllan) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of standing orders, I advise the Parliament that His Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Circular Economy (Scot...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We will move on to the debate. I invite members who wish to speak in the debate to press their request-to-speak buttons. 17:16
The Minister for Climate Action (Gillian Martin) SNP
I am delighted to open the stage 3 debate on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. I will begin by thanking the many people who have helped us to get to thi...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
In two or three years’ time, if we were to look at what difference the bill has made to anything, what would we notice?
Gillian Martin SNP
It is my fervent hope that the bill will be a springboard for all the local waste collectors and managers throughout Scotland to come together to share best ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Gillian Martin SNP
I want to continue. I might be able to take an intervention later. For the first time, there will be a statutory duty to prepare a circular economy strategy...
Sarah Boyack Lab
One thing that we debated at stage 2 was the impact of fines on householders, particularly those in tenements or shared properties. I notice that that issue ...
Gillian Martin SNP
Very helpfully, Ms Boyack has set out what I probably would have said in response to her question. The measure is about repeat, persistent offenders—the type...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I must ask you to conclude, minister.
Gillian Martin SNP
I am being asked to conclude, but I might be able to pick up some of the points that I have missed in my opening speech when I finish the debate. I move, T...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
In the previous debate, the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, Màiri McAllan, referenced climate activists in Malawi and appeared to suggest that Sco...
Gillian Martin SNP
I am keen to have a tone of debate this afternoon that reflects my experience of working on the bill. I genuinely thought that I worked very constructively a...
Maurice Golden Con
We are perhaps talking about two separate aspects. My feeling is one of frustration and deflation regarding the bill, but I would certainly regard myself and...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, start by thanking the committee, the clerks and all the organisations that worked tirelessly to get the legislation that we urgently need and the pro...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
If it is brief, yes.
Gillian Martin SNP
I recognise what the Welsh Government has achieved, but it is also important that the deliverers on the ground come back to us and say what they want to achi...
Sarah Boyack Lab
As I understand it, it was a negotiation in Wales. In its analysis of the bill, the Finance and Public Administration Committee raised concerns about the pr...
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
The Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill is an important one for the Scottish Greens, because of its significance in changing the shape of the economy in Scotlan...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As others have done, I thank the organisations and individuals who provided evidence and informed the scrutiny of the bill, and I acknowledge the Net Zero, E...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to winding-up speeches. 17:42
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I am very proud that the bill will be passed today. It has been a long time in the making. Covid delayed the introduction of a bill on the circular economy i...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
I am a little short of time, so I will not, unless there is time in hand. I turn to the Green amendments. I am pleased that we made progress on ensuring tha...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As other members have, I record my thanks to Scottish Parliament staff, particularly in the Scottish Parliament information centre, for supporting the Net Ze...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
When considering a bill, it is always useful to have a look at what it is meant to achieve. To do so, we need look no further than the general principles, wh...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Con
No—I have no time, I am afraid. The minister said that she thinks the one thing that the bill will lead to will be waste managers sharing best practice. Lorn...