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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2024

26 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Palestine
Chapman, Maggie Green North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I am grateful to Humza Yousaf for lodging his motion and for securing the debate in the chamber. I echo other members’ comments that recognise his leadership on the issue.

I know that many people around Scotland will be watching us to see what we in Parliament say and do about the awful genocide that is wreaking death and destruction across Gaza. I believe that those of us who have consistently been calling for a ceasefire for more than eight months, and for the world to recognise the state of Palestine for much longer than that, will, in time, be shown to have been on the right side of history.

We desperately need peace in the lands of Palestine and Israel—and it must be a just peace. The on-going conflict between Israel and the Palestinians has roots that go back more than a century. A peaceful resolution, although not simple, is a moral imperative. We come to the debate after the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, the murder of children and healthcare workers and the destruction of hospitals, universities, libraries and schools. We come to the debate at a time when Israeli occupation forces have used an injured Palestinian as a human shield, strapped to the front of a military vehicle. We come to the debate when Israel is not just bombarding Gaza but restricting services and support across the occupied territories.

Israel has stopped transferring tax that is collected from Palestinians to the Palestinian National Authority, so public sector workers have not been paid for months. Israel was given control over Palestinian tax and customs in the Oslo accords in the 1990s. The Oslo process saw the then Palestinian Liberation Organisation recognise the state of Israel. Indeed, the PLO did what was asked of it in those accords, but it was consistently undermined by the forces of occupation and apartheid, as the Palestinian Authority has been. Education is an inalienable human right, but the education of young Palestinians is being restricted because the Palestinian Authority has not received the money that it needs to pay teachers’ wages, if, indeed, they still have schools to teach in. The same restrictions apply to healthcare, which is another inalienable human right.

I will say a bit about the attacks on the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East—UNRWA. When the International Court of Justice instructed Israel to ensure that sufficient aid was provided in Gaza, the immediate response was not to make that aid available but to claim that UNRWA was implicated in the 7 October attacks. No evidence of that has ever been produced. More UN workers have been killed in this war than in any other. Hundreds of aid installations have been destroyed and damaged, which has compromised UNRWA’s ability to do its life-saving work.

International humanitarian law—particularly the Geneva convention—emphasises the protection and assistance of civilians. Defunding and otherwise compromising UNRWA’s attempts undermines those protections. We must apply all the international pressure that we can on Israel to stop it from acting in bad faith, and so that the UK and the US reinstate support for UNRWA, stop sending arms to Israel and recognise the state of Palestine. A just peace cannot be achieved by the obliteration of a people and the destruction of their world.

I have a different position to others on the issue of a two-state solution, one that is shared by many workers for peace in Israel and Palestine. The occupation of east Jerusalem makes such a proposal unworkable, I believe, as do the illegal settlements in the West Bank. I urge colleagues to read Jeff Halper’s writing on that. However, that difference does not diminish my support for the immediate recognition of the state of Palestine, for an end to supplying arms to Israel and for a ceasefire. The Palestinian people should be given the power and the means to determine their own future.

To conclude, I will share the words of Shahed Bdeir, a 13-year-old Palestinian child whose poem, “Mother Palestine”, has been on display in the Scottish Poetry Library as part of the Hands Up Project’s “Moon Tell Me Truth” exhibition:

“Sadness in her eyes
as everyone dies
She remembers the old days
How beautiful she was
But no one can realize
that she wants to survive
Everyone, everywhere, must realize
that Palestine deserves life.”

19:17  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business this evening is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-13609, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on immediate recognition of the state...
Humza Yousaf (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) SNP
I thank members from across the Parliament for supporting my motion today and for taking time out of their busy campaign diaries to speak on this most import...
Jackson Carlaw (Eastwood) (Con) Con
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Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I thank my colleague Humza Yousaf for securing this incredibly important debate. Throughout his time as an MSP, Humza Yousaf has shown unwavering support for...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Like my colleagues, I thank Humza Yousaf for the moral courage and leadership that he showed in his time as First Minister and has shown throughout his time ...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
I have stood here twice before to condemn the terrorist attack on 7 October and the inhumane horrors that have taken place since and which continue to unfold...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak on behalf of Scottish Liberal Democrats in today’s incredibly important debate. I thank Humza Yousaf for bringing the debate to the cha...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Humza Yousaf for bringing this important motion to Parliament. We have a direct historic responsibility for the injustice perpetrated on Palestine a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you. Before calling the next speaker I am conscious that a number of members still wish to participate in the debate. I am therefore minded to accept a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I now call James Dornan, to be followed by Carol Mochan. You have up to four minutes, Mr Dornan. 19:04
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
We could spend our allotted time listing the countless cases of the deliberate slaughter of men, women and children during and since the events of 7 October ...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Humza Yousaf for bringing this important debate to the chamber. At a time when eyes have begun to turn away from the atrocities and horrors that are ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Maggie Chapman as the final speaker in the open debate for up to four minutes. 19:13
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I am grateful to Humza Yousaf for lodging his motion and for securing the debate in the chamber. I echo other members’ comments that recognise his leadership...
The Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture (Angus Robertson) SNP
I thank Humza Yousaf for securing this important debate. I pay tribute to him for his principled stance on the issue as minister, cabinet secretary, First Mi...