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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2024

26 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill

As other members have, I record my thanks to Scottish Parliament staff, particularly in the Scottish Parliament information centre, for supporting the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. I also thank all the members of the committee and Scottish Government officials for their support.

I was pleased to hear Lorna Slater making a contribution. I also thank Gillian Martin for being generous with her time at short notice to work not just with me but with many colleagues around the chamber.

Scottish Labour believes that the bill as amended is stronger and better than it was when it was introduced, which is testament to cross-party working by members. That is why I am a little surprised that Maurice Golden does not seem to be his usual enthusiastic self today. Perhaps a bit of tiredness has set in. Every party in the chamber has added to the bill, which is a good thing.

At every stage of the bill, Scottish Labour has made sure that innocent householders will not be criminalised for the actions of others or for making the simple mistake of putting the wrong thing in the wrong bin, which is important. We have also tried to embed incentivising good behaviour and creating opportunities.

In closing the debate for Scottish Labour, I want to reflect on what my amendments and my colleague Sarah Boyack’s amendments contribute. I think that they strengthen the bill, particularly in relation to provisions on due diligence, human rights, environmental impact and global supply chains. All that is important. Our approach will also ensure that the secondary legislation to come will be strengthened in relation to reducing carbon emissions and on exempting food from the provisions relating to unsold consumer goods.

I thank the Government for working constructively with us, but we are disappointed, in the sense that we would have liked the Scottish Government to strengthen the bill further around reuse and the just transition, because some stakeholders wanted closer alignment with the just transition principles in the Climate Change Act 2008. Our amendments would have helped with that, but we will continue to work with the Scottish Government to do more.

I am pleased that the Scottish Government has committed to work on improving access to reusable nappies. We will see that in the route map and, I hope, in the co-design process with local authorities. I hope that the minister will establish a short-life working group to work with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and other partners to build on the findings of the James Hutton Institute’s report and the work that has been done by North Ayrshire Council.

We are very short of time, even though we did a lot of work on the bill. It is fair to say that some stakeholders have been concerned that the Government was not being ambitious enough; we have just had a debate on the climate emergency. We are putting faith in the Government on the circular economy, but we hope and expect to see action through the strategy and the route map.

It is important to say that we welcome the clarity around funding, but the matter requires the right framework and a fair approach as well as the right funding, because local authorities in particular need to be empowered to take the work forward.

I will end with the words not of circular economy guru Maurice Golden—he is a bit tired today—but of Ellen MacArthur, who said:

“If we could build an economy that would use things rather than use them up, we could build a future.”

I hope that those words will resonate. There is an opportunity before us to create a new economy in which we use rather than use up.

I thank the Presiding Officer for her generosity, and I look forward to working with the minister.

17:51  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13757, in the name of Gillian Martin, on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. As members wil...
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy (Màiri McAllan) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of standing orders, I advise the Parliament that His Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Circular Economy (Scot...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We will move on to the debate. I invite members who wish to speak in the debate to press their request-to-speak buttons. 17:16
The Minister for Climate Action (Gillian Martin) SNP
I am delighted to open the stage 3 debate on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. I will begin by thanking the many people who have helped us to get to thi...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
In two or three years’ time, if we were to look at what difference the bill has made to anything, what would we notice?
Gillian Martin SNP
It is my fervent hope that the bill will be a springboard for all the local waste collectors and managers throughout Scotland to come together to share best ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Gillian Martin SNP
I want to continue. I might be able to take an intervention later. For the first time, there will be a statutory duty to prepare a circular economy strategy...
Sarah Boyack Lab
One thing that we debated at stage 2 was the impact of fines on householders, particularly those in tenements or shared properties. I notice that that issue ...
Gillian Martin SNP
Very helpfully, Ms Boyack has set out what I probably would have said in response to her question. The measure is about repeat, persistent offenders—the type...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I must ask you to conclude, minister.
Gillian Martin SNP
I am being asked to conclude, but I might be able to pick up some of the points that I have missed in my opening speech when I finish the debate. I move, T...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
In the previous debate, the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, Màiri McAllan, referenced climate activists in Malawi and appeared to suggest that Sco...
Gillian Martin SNP
I am keen to have a tone of debate this afternoon that reflects my experience of working on the bill. I genuinely thought that I worked very constructively a...
Maurice Golden Con
We are perhaps talking about two separate aspects. My feeling is one of frustration and deflation regarding the bill, but I would certainly regard myself and...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, start by thanking the committee, the clerks and all the organisations that worked tirelessly to get the legislation that we urgently need and the pro...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
If it is brief, yes.
Gillian Martin SNP
I recognise what the Welsh Government has achieved, but it is also important that the deliverers on the ground come back to us and say what they want to achi...
Sarah Boyack Lab
As I understand it, it was a negotiation in Wales. In its analysis of the bill, the Finance and Public Administration Committee raised concerns about the pr...
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
The Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill is an important one for the Scottish Greens, because of its significance in changing the shape of the economy in Scotlan...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As others have done, I thank the organisations and individuals who provided evidence and informed the scrutiny of the bill, and I acknowledge the Net Zero, E...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to winding-up speeches. 17:42
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I am very proud that the bill will be passed today. It has been a long time in the making. Covid delayed the introduction of a bill on the circular economy i...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
I am a little short of time, so I will not, unless there is time in hand. I turn to the Green amendments. I am pleased that we made progress on ensuring tha...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As other members have, I record my thanks to Scottish Parliament staff, particularly in the Scottish Parliament information centre, for supporting the Net Ze...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
When considering a bill, it is always useful to have a look at what it is meant to achieve. To do so, we need look no further than the general principles, wh...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Con
No—I have no time, I am afraid. The minister said that she thinks the one thing that the bill will lead to will be waste managers sharing best practice. Lorn...