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Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2024

26 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill

As others have done, I thank the organisations and individuals who provided evidence and informed the scrutiny of the bill, and I acknowledge the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee’s work in undertaking that scrutiny pretty forensically.

This area of policy has always benefited from good cross-party collaboration, which has been in evidence throughout the bill process. As a result, as Sarah Boyack said, the bill is now much improved compared with what was introduced.

In particular, I commend the MSPs who led the consideration of the 100-and-whatever amendments yesterday evening. That allowed for constructive changes to be made, and some amendments were useful challenges that prompted commitments from the minister.

I make a special mention of Graham Simpson, who demonstrated that members do not have to press every amendment to a vote in order to make their point. I hope that others have learned that lesson.

I also thank the minister, who, as others have said, had the bill added to her portfolio at late notice, midway through the process. I am very grateful to her for the collaborative approach that she took in her engagement with me, and I detect that she took the same approach with members across the chamber. It would be fair to say that that approach was adopted by her predecessor, Lorna Slater, too.

At stage 1, I echoed concerns that were expressed by other members that the bill was light on detail, lacked clarity and did not measure up to its lofty ambitions and the needs of the moment. The final bill is certainly not perfect, and it leaves much of the heavy lifting to a future circular economy strategy and future targets, which are to be developed by ministers and others in due course. Nonetheless, there have been welcome changes that have added much-needed detail, and there are now provisions that embed just transition principles and strengthen the recognition that, in a circular economy, reducing consumption is just as important as reducing waste.

I very much welcome the commitments that the minister made yesterday on issues that did not make it into the final text, including, as Sarah Boyack indicated, on the joint working with the UK Government that will be necessary to reduce waste exports, which mask our own waste and emissions while causing untold damage to the environment overseas.

As I said in the stage 1 debate, the bill is timely, because it is more urgent than ever that we reduce our consumption-based emissions in order to combat climate change. In that context, and given the commitment to the necessary follow-through in the circular economy strategy and the other undertakings that were made by the minister, I confirm that Scottish Liberal Democrats will vote for the bill at decision time.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13757, in the name of Gillian Martin, on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill at stage 3. As members wil...
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy (Màiri McAllan) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of standing orders, I advise the Parliament that His Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Circular Economy (Scot...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We will move on to the debate. I invite members who wish to speak in the debate to press their request-to-speak buttons. 17:16
The Minister for Climate Action (Gillian Martin) SNP
I am delighted to open the stage 3 debate on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. I will begin by thanking the many people who have helped us to get to thi...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
In two or three years’ time, if we were to look at what difference the bill has made to anything, what would we notice?
Gillian Martin SNP
It is my fervent hope that the bill will be a springboard for all the local waste collectors and managers throughout Scotland to come together to share best ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Gillian Martin SNP
I want to continue. I might be able to take an intervention later. For the first time, there will be a statutory duty to prepare a circular economy strategy...
Sarah Boyack Lab
One thing that we debated at stage 2 was the impact of fines on householders, particularly those in tenements or shared properties. I notice that that issue ...
Gillian Martin SNP
Very helpfully, Ms Boyack has set out what I probably would have said in response to her question. The measure is about repeat, persistent offenders—the type...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I must ask you to conclude, minister.
Gillian Martin SNP
I am being asked to conclude, but I might be able to pick up some of the points that I have missed in my opening speech when I finish the debate. I move, T...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
In the previous debate, the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, Màiri McAllan, referenced climate activists in Malawi and appeared to suggest that Sco...
Gillian Martin SNP
I am keen to have a tone of debate this afternoon that reflects my experience of working on the bill. I genuinely thought that I worked very constructively a...
Maurice Golden Con
We are perhaps talking about two separate aspects. My feeling is one of frustration and deflation regarding the bill, but I would certainly regard myself and...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, start by thanking the committee, the clerks and all the organisations that worked tirelessly to get the legislation that we urgently need and the pro...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
If it is brief, yes.
Gillian Martin SNP
I recognise what the Welsh Government has achieved, but it is also important that the deliverers on the ground come back to us and say what they want to achi...
Sarah Boyack Lab
As I understand it, it was a negotiation in Wales. In its analysis of the bill, the Finance and Public Administration Committee raised concerns about the pr...
Lorna Slater (Lothian) (Green) Green
The Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill is an important one for the Scottish Greens, because of its significance in changing the shape of the economy in Scotlan...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As others have done, I thank the organisations and individuals who provided evidence and informed the scrutiny of the bill, and I acknowledge the Net Zero, E...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to winding-up speeches. 17:42
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I am very proud that the bill will be passed today. It has been a long time in the making. Covid delayed the introduction of a bill on the circular economy i...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
I am a little short of time, so I will not, unless there is time in hand. I turn to the Green amendments. I am pleased that we made progress on ensuring tha...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As other members have, I record my thanks to Scottish Parliament staff, particularly in the Scottish Parliament information centre, for supporting the Net Ze...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
When considering a bill, it is always useful to have a look at what it is meant to achieve. To do so, we need look no further than the general principles, wh...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Graham Simpson Con
No—I have no time, I am afraid. The minister said that she thinks the one thing that the bill will lead to will be waste managers sharing best practice. Lorn...