Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 26 June 2024
26 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Climate Emergency
I must admit that I am a bit perplexed about why the Scottish National Party has decided to bring to the chamber a debate on the subject of the climate emergency when it has failed so dismally to meet its own climate targets and obligations.
Only six days ago, it was revealed that another target has been missed. That brings the grand total to nine failures out of 13 targets. The devolved SNP Government is asking the public to judge it on its record. That record is one of failure, overpromising, underdelivering and an abandonment of industries in the north-east.
To come to the chamber today and laud so-called achievements is complete nonsense. I have no idea how the minister can say such things with a straight face.
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