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Meeting of the Parliament 19 June 2024

19 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Growing the Economy
Forbes, Kate SNP Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch Watch on SPTV

When I took up the role of Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic—six weeks ago, I believe, although the election has distracted us all somewhat—I was asked about my plans and priorities. I said, and I reiterate it today, that the plan is simple: it is to get the economy firing on all cylinders and to use the engine of economic growth to power a better future.

Although the plan is simple, the prize is enormous. Scotland is a country where growth is recognised as a key enabler of social, economic and cultural progress, and where economic success enables us to eradicate the scourge of child poverty, achieve net zero and provide our public services with the investment that they require in order to save, empower and transform lives.

Today, we publish our latest progress report on the national strategy for economic transformation. We remain committed to its vision of “a fairer, greener and wealthier” economy that works for all the people of Scotland. It is a plan to transform our economy through a relentless climb to the top rather than a self-defeating race to the bottom, and through looking outwards to what can be achieved rather than inwards at what we must not lose.

Scotland’s growth needs to be fair, green and sustainable. It should be growth that is defined by a spirit of innovation, in which the traditional bedrocks of our economy—tourism, financial services and food and drink—reinvent themselves for a digital and net zero world. The growth should be founded on the industries of tomorrow, including space, financial technology, life sciences and advanced manufacturing.

The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care and I recently chaired a round table with leaders from the national health service, leading universities and private sector companies that are looking to develop and scale up new products and services in Scotland. They were clear that not only does Scotland have an incredible history of innovation, but it has the people, data, supply chains, enterprise agencies and policy makers that can deliver a future that is every bit as successful as our past.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13679, in the name of Kate Forbes, on Scottish Government priorities: growing the economy. I call on the ...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic (Kate Forbes) SNP
When I took up the role of Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic—six weeks ago, I believe, although the election has distracted ...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Kate Forbes is correct to say that, but why did the Scottish Government feel the need to cut the budget for the university and college sector, which is instr...
Kate Forbes SNP
Liz Smith is right that the college and university sector is critical; I am about to talk about education and skills. She will recall that our public finance...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
Why not?
Murdo Fraser Con
At the launch of the Scottish National Party manifesto this morning—which, I believe, the Deputy First Minister attended—I was intrigued to see that the SNP ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I will take the opportunity, at this early stage in proceedings, to remind members that the debate is about matters for which Parliament has responsibility. ...
Kate Forbes SNP
I am sure, having shared multiple platforms with Mr Fraser in various hustings around the country, that I will shortly have the opportunity to answer his que...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
I am most grateful to the Deputy First Minister for giving way. Does she agree that economic growth is not all about more money and more cash—it is also abo...
Kate Forbes SNP
I agree that we need to ensure that Scotland is a great place to do business. I will perhaps come on to that in the limited time that I have available. For ...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
Do I have time?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a bit of time in hand.
Paul Sweeney Lab
I thank the cabinet secretary for giving way. She raised an important issue about the growth and scaling of firms in Scotland. One of the concerns that has o...
Kate Forbes SNP
Paul Sweeney has put his finger on it when it comes to our ambition for Scottish start-ups. In supporting companies to start up and then scale up, we do not ...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
As the Deputy First Minister fairly said, she and I, as well as Mr Johnson and others, have been doing the rounds with various debates during the course of t...
Kate Forbes SNP
Who would the member say has been responsible for Scotland outperforming the rest of the UK economically in recent times?
Murdo Fraser Con
The Deputy First Minister needs to look at the wider picture, because, since 2014, the Scottish economy has grown, on average, at half the rate at which the ...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Would Murdo Fraser agree that, as far as the development of renewables in the UK is concerned, which both Governments and all parties agree is a huge opportu...
Murdo Fraser Con
Mr Ewing makes an important point. I do not like making off-the-cuff responses to ideas that I have not heard before, but I think that he identifies correctl...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
I hear what Murdo Fraser says. However, does he congratulate the Scottish Government on the fact that the majority of people in Scotland pay less in income t...
Murdo Fraser Con
The benefit with regard to income tax is a few pennies a week and it makes no substantial difference to people’s household incomes. Anybody who earns more th...
Paul Sweeney Lab
Will the member give way on that point?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is bringing his remarks to a close.
Murdo Fraser Con
I apologise for being unable to take the intervention. Our ambition, which is set out in our amendment, is to keep taxes in Scotland competitive with those ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I will start by approaching the debate very much in the spirit that the Government is offering—the economy is too important to be discussed only in the narro...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I must say that I agree with the principles behind what Mr Johnson has said. Does he agree that, to achieve that growth in renewables, it is essential that w...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I agree with the broad sentiment. I suspect that there might be some points of disagreement implied, but I will acknowledge two things. First, transition is ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can be relatively generous.