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Meeting of the Parliament 13 June 2024

13 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Public Service Investment

Investing in our public services to ensure that they are effective and sustainable is central to delivering the Scottish Government’s priorities of eradicating child poverty, growing our economy and tackling the climate emergency. However, our ability to deliver that is choked by austerity, Brexit and the cost of living crisis—the simple ABC of Westminster holding Scotland back.

For the past 14 years, we have endured Westminster austerity, which has been an impediment to the delivery of effective public services by curtailing investment in our front-line services. We have seen Brexit forced on the people of Scotland expressly against their democratic will. Brexit has taken the legs out from under economic growth. That has meant that we must work even harder to help Scotland’s economy with the powers that we have, which means that business and our vital public services have had to work harder to fill vacancies and supplement local skills.

The cost of living crisis was created by the Tories and exacerbated by Liz Truss, with members on the Tory benches demanding that we follow her budget. Not content with that damage, the Conservatives’ current spending plans will see nearly £20 billion of cuts, and they want to go further—in their manifesto, they have another £17 billion of tax cuts.

By the looks of it, that is set to be continued by Labour, a party that boasts about sticking to the Tory spending plans, no matter the cost to people. The Institute for Fiscal Studies has clearly laid out the choice that Labour needs to make, with the IFS deputy director saying:

“Unless they get lucky on growth, they would either have to do more on tax rises that they haven’t told us about, or they would have to deliver cuts to the public services that have already been hit by the austerity of the 2010s.”

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13602, in the name of Shona Robison, on Scottish Government priorities—investing in Scotland’s public ser...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
Investing in our public services to ensure that they are effective and sustainable is central to delivering the Scottish Government’s priorities of eradicati...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Does the cabinet secretary accept that, if growth in this country had stayed as it was when Labour was last in government, we would have tens of billions of ...
Shona Robison SNP
I say to Pam Duncan-Glancy that, by many indicators, the Scottish economy is performing better. If we look at the recent Royal Bank of Scotland report, we se...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary is calling on others to reflect. Has she reflected on her time as health secretary and on the £20 million cut to drug and alcohol partn...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give the cabinet secretary the time back for the intervention.
Shona Robison SNP
On the housing budget specifically, it is not just the capital cut that we are wrestling with; it is the more than 60 per cent cut to financial transactions....
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Members will know that, earlier this week, the Finance and Public Administration Committee announced its latest inquiry, to investigate the Scottish Governme...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Liz Smith Con
I will do so in a minute. That is an uncomfortable fact, because some people in the Scottish National Party ranks know full well that it cannot continue. If...
Ross Greer Green
To be clear, there are many parts of Scotland’s economy that the Greens want to see grow, most obviously the renewable energy sector. We supported the growth...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back for the intervention, Liz Smith.
Liz Smith Con
I definitely do not acknowledge that. If we listen to many people who are running businesses and operating in the economy in Scotland, the last thing that th...
Shona Robison SNP
Will Liz Smith take an intervention?
Liz Smith Con
I will do so in a minute. It is simply not credible to blame everything on Westminster. I have noticed that that point has been made in many of the TV debat...
Shona Robison SNP
I mentioned earlier some of the strengths of the Scottish economy. Will Liz Smith recognise that she is not speaking from a strong position? Office for Natio...
Liz Smith Con
The UK economy has not been doing as well as it should be. My point is that the Scottish economy has been progressing even less well, and that has come about...
Miles Briggs Con
It is a broken record.
Liz Smith Con
It just goes on and on, and, as my colleague has just reminded me, it is a broken record. It will not wash with the public, because it is not correct. Our p...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Mark Griffin, who joins us remotely. 15:34
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
At the outset, I apologise to the chamber for not being on the front bench and for participating remotely. I tested positive for Covid this morning, so I am ...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Mark Griffin Lab
I will take an intervention from Ms Adam.
Karen Adam SNP
I thank the member for taking an intervention. Does he truly believe that a Tory austerity agenda, a Tory Brexit and a Tory cost of living crisis have had no...
Mark Griffin Lab
It is clear that they have had an impact. We have had 14 years of Tory chaos, but we have also had 17 years of SNP mismanagement, which have left the NHS in ...
Shona Robison SNP
Made a request to intervene.
Mark Griffin Lab
I will take an intervention from the cabinet secretary.
Shona Robison SNP
I thank Mark Griffin for taking an intervention, and I hope that he feels better soon. According to a briefing that was provided to the newspapers this morn...
Mark Griffin Lab
I do not listen to off-the-record briefings, and I would advise the cabinet secretary not to either. The Labour manifesto has been published and I am sure th...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I am glad that we are having this debate this afternoon, although I am a bit frustrated that we are not having a debate dedicated to the fiscal sustainabilit...