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Meeting of the Parliament 04 June 2024

04 Jun 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Health and Social Care

I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests: I am a practising NHS general practitioner.

The future of our national health service is of the utmost importance to the people of Scotland and to the more than 180,000 serving NHS Scotland staff. In fact, healthcare professionals and patient groups have been calling for a national conversation on the NHS for years, and we know why.

As our population ages; as more people suffer from chronic diseases, from mobility issues and from poor mental health; as life expectancy in Scotland falls; and as arthritis and musculoskeletal problems affect one third of our population, this debate is long overdue. With Scots in our most deprived areas being twice as likely to die from cancer; with one in seven Scots on an NHS waiting list; with accident and emergency waiting targets unmet in four years; with cancer referral standards unmet in a decade; and with the number of whole-time equivalent GPs decreasing at a time when the number of registered patients is growing, this debate is long overdue.

Ideally, the debate should transcend politics. The Scottish Conservatives were prepared for this crucial conversation early in February, when we published our paper, “Modern, Efficient, Local”. Since then, the Scottish National Party Government has been conspicuously silent and has yet to bring a coherent vision to the table. The SNP is devoid of any substantive proposals. That is not just disappointing—it is a neglect of duty. Instead of stepping up to the plate, either by publishing a plan before the Opposition did or—at least—responding to our call for a national conversation, the Scottish Government chose to bide its time.

I appreciate that the Government was somewhat distracted by the forced change of health secretary. However, if the SNP spent more time and energy thinking about the NHS than about its own travails, a colleague’s bill for data roaming or its politics with the Greens, then maybe—just maybe—we could get serious about NHS reform.

So, here we are. In the midst of a heated general election campaign, the SNP has suddenly decided to bring this crucial debate to the chamber. However, the timing is no accident: it coincides with the SNP’s general election headline on the NHS. Despite the clear reservations of the two largest Opposition parties, the SNP has chosen to manipulate Scottish parliamentary time in order to serve its UK general electioneering purposes. That is an affront to every Scot who relies on the NHS and to every healthcare professional who dedicates their life to serving others.

This is not the time for crafty manoeuvres or underhand tactics. This is the time for honest, robust and urgent dialogue about how we ensure that the NHS can continue to provide world-class care.

Despite the SNP and its political chicanery, we come today armed with ideas and with a willingness to engage in constructive dialogue. Our vision is for an NHS in Scotland that is modern, efficient and local, and one that is accessible for all of our population—urban, rural and island.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13466, in the name of Neil Gray, on a vision for health and social care in Scotland. I invite members who...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
We have reached a critical point in our country’s health. We are seeing growing demand on our health and social care services, which needs to be addressed, a...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
One way in which the health service can be prevented from being overburdened is to introduce the audit of fracture liaison services, which the Government com...
Neil Gray SNP
There are areas that we should develop in the details of the service delivery that we can achieve, such as the one that Pam Duncan-Glancy mentions. That is w...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
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Neil Gray SNP
Finlay Carson touches on the important issue of attraction and retention, which is being worked on by the nursing and midwifery task force. We need to see an...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests: I am a practising NHS general practitioner. The future of our national health s...
Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP
Does the Conservative vision for healthcare include its remaining in public hands?
Sandesh Gulhane Con
It does, 100 per cent. As an NHS GP, I will always want the NHS to be free at the point of care. In fact, if you listen a little bit longer, you will hear so...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Speak through the chair.
Sandesh Gulhane Con
—which is our vision for the NHS, the member will be able to understand our 26-page policy document. To achieve that, our country will need to truly embra...
Neil Gray SNP
I really want to focus on ideas on how we will move forward. I agree with Sandesh Gulhane’s suggestion on refocusing and prioritising some funding for preven...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back for interventions, Dr Gulhane.
Sandesh Gulhane Con
What we seek is a reduction in demand for secondary care, which is far more expensive than the work that we would undertake in primary care. We also need to ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I think that this debate has been misnamed. It is entitled “A Vision for Health and Social Care in Scotland”, but this SNP Government has not had any vision ...
Neil Gray SNP
I am interested in the waiting time statistics that Jackie Baillie quotes in her amendment, because they are factually inaccurate. I am interested in underst...
Jackie Baillie Lab
First, those figures are neither misleading nor factually inaccurate. They were taken from data that has been published by Public Health Scotland. I will no...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by extending my gratitude to the workers who make up our NHS—those who spend their lives making sure that we get the care we are entitled to when we ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
As someone who has played walking football, I would be concerned that doing so five days a week might put additional pressure on A and E services. 16:48
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak in the debate on behalf of Scottish Liberal Democrats. I am grateful that the cabinet secretary offered to meet me. I know that, in adv...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 16:54
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
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Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
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Sue Webber Con
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Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
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Sue Webber Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Made a request to intervene.
Christine Grahame SNP
Yes, I will take an intervention.
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
I call Sue Webber.