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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 May 2024

28 May 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Motions
Johnstone, Alison NPA Lothian Watch on SPTV

Thank you, Mr Gray. We will ensure that that is recorded.

For

Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con)
Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con)
Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con)
Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con)
Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con)
Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con)
Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con)
Regan, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con)
Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con)
White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con)
Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Against

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP)
Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP)
Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP)
Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green)
Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP)
Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP)
Don, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP)
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)
Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP)
Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP)
Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP)
Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP)
Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP)
Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green)
Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP)
McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP)
McKelvie, Christina (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP)
McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP)
McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)
Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green)
Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP)
Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP)
Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP)
Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP)
Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP)
Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP)

Abstentions

Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab)
Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab)
Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)
Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab)
O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab)
Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab)
Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab)

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-13384, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on a timetable ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-13389, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on changes to t...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Liam Kerr to speak to and move amendment S6M-13389.1. You have up to five minutes. 14:05
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I rise to request that, after the early finish this week, on Thursday 30 May, a statement from the Cabinet Secretary for Transport regarding the imposition o...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Jamie Hepburn to respond on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. You have up to five minutes. 14:09
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
I thank Mr Kerr for lodging his amendment. The matter was discussed at the bureau this morning, where there was no agreement to a statement—indeed, it was no...
Liam Kerr Con
Surely the minister must concede that, given that the zone will be imposed from Saturday, we have to hear the statement now, before the measures come in. Giv...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
I return to the point about the scheduling of business. Even Liam Kerr would accept that a statement this week will not change the fact of the coming of the ...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the minister take another quick intervention?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
On the matter of footfall, the Glasgow LEZ has been in operation since June 2023, and the metrics from Glasgow Chamber of Commerce show that weekend footfall...
Liam Kerr Con
I am genuinely grateful to the minister for giving way again, and I understand the point that he is making. The point that I am very clear on is that it appe...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
The cabinet secretary cannot be held to account for the misunderstanding or otherwise of the leader of Aberdeen City Council. I do respect—
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will the minister give way?
Jamie Hepburn SNP
One last time—very briefly.
Kevin Stewart SNP
I declare an interest, as I live within the LEZ. We have a situation here in which we are seeing electioneering. Mr Kerr’s colleague, Councillor Lumsden—I a...
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Just as the cabinet secretary cannot be held to account for the council leader’s comments, I certainly cannot be held to account for Mr Lumsden’s comments.
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention? He has to let me speak—I have been mentioned.
Jamie Hepburn SNP
Mr Lumsden knows that I am normally very amenable, but I think that I have just a minute and 15 seconds left. To continue with the point that I was making, ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment S6M-13389.1, in the name of Liam Kerr, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13389, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 14:14 Meeting suspended. 14:20 On resuming—
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the vote on amendment S6M-13389.1, in the name of Liam Kerr. Members should cast their votes now.
Jamie Hepburn SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer—
The Presiding Officer NPA
Colleagues should bear with us for a moment. I am going to rerun the vote. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is closed.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I apologise; I could not connect to the app. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Gray. We will ensure that that is recorded. For Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeens...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division is: For 29, Against 62, Abstentions 18. Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next question is, that motion S6M-13389, in the name of Jamie Hepburn, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on changes to the business programme, be ag...