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Meeting of the Parliament 09 May 2024

09 May 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Burgess, Ariane Green Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

Earlier this year, I was horrified to find out about a case of illegal and cruel puppy farming in Inverness, in my region. A couple had rented out their cottage for three days. Imagine their shock and horror when they returned to it to find 14 neglected puppies, caked in faeces and urine, some of which were in a cage. They then found out that those puppies were being sold to unsuspecting buyers for £1,500 each.

That is appalling but, unfortunately, it is not a rare story. The puppy trade is a multimillion-pound industry. The illegal underside of the trade has strong links to serious organised crime groups that operate throughout the UK.

The Scottish Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals did not pull any punches in the evidence that it gave at Westminster. Bred purely for profit, puppies from puppy farms are often kept in conditions reminiscent of those in intensive farming systems. Bitches are bred too often, and many are unhealthy and live in unbearably poor conditions. Puppies are generally removed from their mothers far too early and are then transported in unsuitable conditions to satisfy public demand. Unfortunately, low-welfare breeding is on the rise, despite the best efforts of the SSPCA and others to tackle it. The SSPCA is even seeing a boom in unregulated and unsafe canine fertility clinics to meet the public’s demand for dogs.

Although criminal activity is rising to exploit public demand, we can guard against it by supporting public awareness, education and responsibility around dog ownership. That is exactly what the bill aims to do. I extend my whole-hearted congratulations to Christine Grahame for being such a strong and consistent advocate for companion animal welfare and for bringing the bill to fruition through her hard work and great focus.

The Scottish Greens have always been fully committed to animal welfare. From protecting mountain hares from slaughter on grouse moors to ending live export of farm animals outwith the UK, and from banning the use of cruel snare traps to securing new powers for the SSPCA to investigate wildlife crime, we have been integral to securing such protections for our fellow creatures. My colleague Mark Ruskell is working tirelessly to end the cruel practice of greyhound racing. It is therefore no surprise that we support the bill.

Of course, the Scottish Greens support the intention to protect animal welfare by establishing a more responsible approach to dog ownership and enhanced monitoring and traceability in the breeding and sale of puppies, and we support the intention behind the code. On monitoring and traceability, we recognise the concerns that the Scottish Government has raised about the design of part 2 and the register. It is good to hear that Christine Grahame is content to see a microchipping scheme for traceability. The Scottish Greens will do our part to ensure that that is a priority for the Scottish Government.

I know that there is support from members across the chamber for improving companion animal welfare. Maurice Golden has done great work to build support for a ban on electric shock collars. Scottish Labour wants to ban the import of very young puppies, and the Liberal Democrats supported the bill that became the Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022, partly to protect pets from distress.

Members might have different ideas about the most effective solutions or the best way to achieve the bill’s intentions, given that resource is limited. However, given the non-controversial nature of the bill’s aims, the bill presents an opportunity for MSPs from all sides of the chamber to work collaboratively to design the most effective legislation and to really get it right.

The Scottish Greens will support the general principles of the bill, and we encourage other parties to do the same.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We resume business. However, I will just say that this is follow-on business, so it is more than a bit disappointing that so many members were absent at the ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. As one of the culprits, I apologise. I welcome today’s debate and the progress that it represents. To members who ca...
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
The member makes a very good case as to why new legislation is necessary. My understanding is that her bill would include a code. Could she say why she feels...
Christine Grahame SNP
Heaven forfend Dr Allan would offend me. I will come to that point. The evidence that was provided to the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee reflects the v...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you a little bit of extra time, Ms Grahame.
Christine Grahame SNP
Thank you very much. Part 2 seeks to establish a register of unlicensed litters, and I remain passionately committed to the policy behind that proposal. At ...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, reflecting on our stage 1 inquiry and report on Christine Grahame’s member’s bill...
Russell Findlay (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Excuse my ignorance on the matter, but there is a significant involvement of organised crime in dog breeding in Scotland and I wonder whether, during its inq...
Finlay Carson Con
We do not have any specifics about that, but everyone on the committee certainly understood that organised crime, gangs and so on could play a big part in th...
The Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity (Jim Fairlie) SNP
I am someone who has had dogs in his life from the age of eight, when I got my first Labrador pup, called Pepper, until very recently—a period of just shy of...
Finlay Carson Con
I welcome Christine Grahame’s bill. The committee heard Gillian Martin, who was the minister at the time, say that she agreed with almost everything that Chr...
Jim Fairlie SNP
I cannot say why something has not been done in the past, but I can say that the Government takes the commitment seriously and that the code that Christine G...
Christine Grahame SNP
I have considered that. Like the minister, I appreciate that there are good people—such as farmers, the police and the owners of guide dogs for the blind—who...
Jim Fairlie SNP
The Scottish Government also agrees with the attention to detail in ensuring that sections of the bill are consistent with the Animal Welfare (Licensing of A...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate Christine Grahame on introducing the Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill and on her concerted efforts during my time in Parliament to improve anim...
Christine Grahame SNP
I would resist being more breed specific, because that would start to clutter up the rather simple questions with regard to the breed. If someone considers t...
Maurice Golden Con
I think that that makes a lot of sense. It has been suggested that there could be type-specific information, too, but we could very quickly start to go down ...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I, too, put on record my recognition of Christine Grahame’s work on the welfare of dogs and on the illegal puppy trade. She has done a lot of work in the Par...
Christine Grahame SNP
I will go into more detail when I sum up, but the UK has come quite a distance on this. It has been suggested that, if there is a portal for all the individu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Ms Grant, I can give you time back for the intervention.
Rhoda Grant Lab
I am grateful for that intervention, as it highlights that the many companies that deal with microchip registers could come together and make them available ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I think that five companies provide microchips across the United Kingdom. The problem is not so much collating the information from those microchips but the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Again, I can give you the time back, Ms Grant.
Rhoda Grant Lab
Yes, it does need more thought. That is not a criticism of Christine Grahame, because there is a limit to what any back-bench member of the Parliament can in...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Earlier this year, I was horrified to find out about a case of illegal and cruel puppy farming in Inverness, in my region. A couple had rented out their cott...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I remind members that those who are participating in the debate need to be in the chamber for both the opening and the closing speeches. We move to the open...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
I thank Christine Grahame for her work so far on the bill, which addresses issues that I know are very close to her heart. I also thank the committee for its...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I add my congratulations to Christine Grahame on introducing the bill. I also congratulate her on resisting the temptation to burst into song during her spee...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As recently as February this year, 24 cockapoo and cavapoo puppies were discovered in a dire situation. They were confined in cardboard boxes under a lorry c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Speak through the chair, please.